Originally Posted by BStill;[url=tel:3647932

3647932[/url]]“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte

Originally Posted by golfandflows

the planes in a fire sale is what I should have said

Originally Posted by Dash 8 Q400

Things are getting rather, let’s say “Testy” and the culture that was suppose to be growing and getting better, is shrinking and getting worse. Yes, even the great DN is getting rather obtuse with the staff. The airline has poor leadership. Most came from Allegiant where the culture has always been rather toxic and is becoming that way at this airline. A lot of promises were, and continue, to be made which are turning out not to be true. It has become a culture of deceipt and deception and while a lot are hangining on for dear life, more and more are realizing it’s a bad organization. I wanted to be positive and hope for the future but I no longer have those feelings. I am burned out on the constant lies our management tells us. I thought it had a chance but think it’s honestly heading in the wrong direction with the wrong people.

The A220 is a white elephant. It constantly breaks down and the flights have to be covered by the Ejet which does not have the same capability. Sixty are on order. There are 13 in the fleet and apparently in 18 months there will be 37. I do not believe that this is possible. The passengers seem to get lied to a lot as well and part of your job will be to constantly apologize to them. The consistent chaos will wane on you.

You will join excited, you will become frustrated and then angry and then you will decide you made a mistake and it’s time to move on.

Dear Management
You have to change. No one really believes you anymore and please stop patting yourselves on the back every Tuesday for creating this mess that you now have. The pay will not be enough as you can’t just throw money at your employees and then lie to them and abuse them. Your passengers are angry as well as evidenced in Social Media. If you do not take heed, you will fail and you will take a lot of people with you!

Originally Posted by TransWorld

I am not real fond of using planes and fire in the same sentence. It triggers me.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

SWA is doing great financially. They pay industry standard or better rates. They are very profitable. Breeze is burning cash like a pile of gasoline soaked rags. This is in the highest revenue environment airlines have ever seen. At some point the investors will demand results.

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Doing well financially?! Uh, I work there and witness the dysfunction and gross mismanagement every time I go to work.

Our Christmas meltdown cost us $1.2 billion dollars because of those reasons. We are not lighting the world on fire like we used to.

There are issues with brackets on the Max 7 and we just had a Max 8 dump into BDL because of “severe airframe vibration” which persisted on the subsequent test flight after it was “fixed”.

SWA has enough money to bleed for quite a while but it is not on a confidence building trajectory. As for the Max 7…..something’s up and it smells fishy. Should’ve gotten the A220 but of course for our management that would’ve been like putting the Space Shuttle into service as they are pathetically inept and 737-focused.

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Doing well financially?! Uh, I work there and witness the dysfunction and gross mismanagement every time I go to work.

Our Christmas meltdown cost us $1.2 billion dollars because of those reasons. We are not lighting the world on fire like we used to.

There are issues with brackets on the Max 7 and we just had a Max 8 dump into BDL because of “severe airframe vibration” which persisted on the subsequent test flight after it was “fixed”.

SWA has enough money to bleed for quite a while but it is not on a confidence building trajectory. As for the Max 7…..something’s up and it smells fishy. Should’ve gotten the A220 but of course for our management that would’ve been like putting the Space Shuttle into service as they are pathetically inept and 737-focused.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

The one thing that kills airlines is lack of capital. SWA is in great shape in that regard.

Originally Posted by BStill

I've seen numbers on the Christmas meltdown that it was an immediate impact of about $1.2B, which reduced their net assets / liquidity from around $16B to around $15B. I'm no industry financial analyst (so please don't roast me about the precision of terms ("assets/liquidity"), but that sounds pretty solid/stable.