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02-07-2020 | 03:27 PM

#521

Texasbound

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I saw nothing about pilot pay, but it does seem he has a thing or two to learn about ETOPS..

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David: Yeah, but that’s different. [The 220] has 7-hour range. We can fly Salt Lake to Maui or Denver to Kahului.

Not with passengers and bags.

02-07-2020 | 03:30 PM

#522

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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer

“It’s not like a 74-seat airplane that’s a scope airplane like the 175. It’s a fine airplane, but it’s not optimally sized for CASM because their pilots make the same, their maintenance is the same. Their capital cost isn’t more, burns a little less fuel because it’s lighter but they have basically 50 less seats than we do. That allows us to charge lower fares and stimulate the market.”

I assume he’s talking about this.

Ah, i didn’t see it that way at first, but re-reading it, yeah, he’s saying his pilots will be making 175 pay, because it’s essentially the same airframe.
Hope that doesn’t work out the way he thinks it will....

02-07-2020 | 03:39 PM

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With all of the legacies hiring big time over the next decade, I would expect compensation to become reasonably competitive - or risk Breeze becoming another revolving door...

02-07-2020 | 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David Puddy

With all of the legacies hiring big time over the next decade, I would expect compensation to become reasonably competitive - or risk Breeze becoming another free type-rating provider...

fixed it for you...

02-07-2020 | 06:36 PM

#525

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

looks like East Coast bases to start and pay significantly BELOW E-190 scale elsewhere - at least to start.

How low are we talking?

02-07-2020 | 06:41 PM

#526

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With spirit and frontier captains making 300k a year where in the world do they find people for jobs that pay less than 190 rate at other places?

02-07-2020 | 07:20 PM

#527

PotatoChip

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Looks like he is targeting E175 rates....

02-07-2020 | 07:24 PM

#528

frizzy

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Mods,

Can we move this thread over to the regional side? Regional aircraft and regional rates

02-07-2020 | 10:24 PM

#529

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Originally Posted by frizzy

Mods,

Can we move this thread over to the regional side? Regional aircraft and regional rates

Its a mainline plane with regional rates.

02-08-2020 | 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frizzy

Mods,

Can we move this thread over to the regional side? Regional aircraft and regional rates

Can you educate yourself a little more about the size and range of those two aircraft (at least the A220)?

It irks me to no end to fly with and talk to pilots that deem both the E-190/195 and A220 as “RJs” just because they’re from the same manufacturer that started out their jet product line with 50 seat RJs.

Get out of that mentality or else management will gladly pay you RJ rates on them when in reality they’re replacement aircraft for small narrowbody MAINLINE aircraft.