Foreign pilots
08-03-2018, 09:56 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by BA320
First off all I would like to thank all of you for your input,
Currently I’m under commuting contract with FlyNas I commute back and forth to the states to see my fiancée. I work 20on/10off and sometimes 20on/20off and I make an avg of 15k USD a month tax free!! 17k if I work aggressively. I understand that money is not everything and it’s the QOL that I’m seeking. The truth should be said; it would really suck for me to work for a regional especially when I think about how much $$$ I used to make. I understand that I don’t have any pic time but I also heared that DL hired regional FOs with no time on the left seat at all, in fact they only did regional for 2-3 years. “Heared it from a compass recruiter”
Now, if stick with my airline and build another 3000 hours which would get me 6k hours total, would that make me more competitive? I might be able to jumb left seat after passing 5k hours.
I’m really surprised that legacy carriers doesn’t really care if an applicant have 3000+ hours on the same equipment they operate.
Aviation rules in Saudi is FAA in fact all the airlines trains their pilots in the states.
Currently I’m under commuting contract with FlyNas I commute back and forth to the states to see my fiancée. I work 20on/10off and sometimes 20on/20off and I make an avg of 15k USD a month tax free!! 17k if I work aggressively. I understand that money is not everything and it’s the QOL that I’m seeking. The truth should be said; it would really suck for me to work for a regional especially when I think about how much $$$ I used to make. I understand that I don’t have any pic time but I also heared that DL hired regional FOs with no time on the left seat at all, in fact they only did regional for 2-3 years. “Heared it from a compass recruiter”
Now, if stick with my airline and build another 3000 hours which would get me 6k hours total, would that make me more competitive? I might be able to jumb left seat after passing 5k hours.
I’m really surprised that legacy carriers doesn’t really care if an applicant have 3000+ hours on the same equipment they operate.
Aviation rules in Saudi is FAA in fact all the airlines trains their pilots in the states.
08-03-2018, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
I don't think anyone got hired at DL without Part 121 time. Your Saudi time is not 121, so that will work against you.
08-03-2018, 10:44 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by BA320
My airline operates under the same strict set of regulations as airlines in the United States - Federal Aviation Regulations Part 121.
Or you are operating illegally, since you are not listed as having a 121 certificate.
08-03-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Well, it’s GACAR 121, not FAR 121.
But I do have friends who got hired at Delta with no 121 time, but they were US military.
But I do have friends who got hired at Delta with no 121 time, but they were US military.
08-03-2018, 11:06 AM
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It doesn’t matter if they read the same, it has to be US 121 certificate time. Why are you so sure the embassy will issue you a visa to work in the US, unless you are already possessing a green card.
Also, time in type matters little in the US, as you will bid or be assigned a type, go thru the same course as every new hire. If there are no bid openings for your class in the A320; you’ll be trained on whatever is open, likely MD-88.
GF
Also, time in type matters little in the US, as you will bid or be assigned a type, go thru the same course as every new hire. If there are no bid openings for your class in the A320; you’ll be trained on whatever is open, likely MD-88.
GF
08-03-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Well, it’s GACAR 121, not FAR 121.
But I do have friends who got hired at Delta with no 121 time, but they were US military.
But I do have friends who got hired at Delta with no 121 time, but they were US military.
08-03-2018, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
It doesn’t matter if they read the same, it has to be US 121 certificate time. Why are you so sure the embassy will issue you a visa to work in the US, unless you are already possessing a green card. Also, time in type matters little in the US, as you will bid or be assigned a type, go thru the same course as every new hire.
GF
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08-03-2018, 11:30 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by dera
I don't think anyone got hired at DL without Part 121 time. Your Saudi time is not 121, so that will work against you.
It's true that DAL specifically seems to prefer airline experience in civilian hires, but plenty of other airlines are more welcoming.
Now if you're talking about being a 121 PIC, yes you need US 121 experience first, foriegn experience will not count, even "121 equivalent".
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