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Old 09-28-2018, 12:47 PM   #1  
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I keep my old-school paper logbook up-to-date, and all of my flight times are adding up correctly and are 100% accurate as far as I can tell. However, since I understand some majors want a break up of flight time by type, I decided to keep an electronic logbook as well, and just got done inputting all of my flight time into it. Some of it was done diretcly via downloading past flights through my current airline's system.

However, times were not matching up as they should. After double and triple checking, I have finally discovered why. On my paper logbook, flights are added using decimal time, whereas my e-logbook adds the exact flight time and then translates it to decimal time. For example, two 1:08 flights add up differently: 1.1+1.1= 2.2, vs 1:08+1:08= 2:16=2.3.

Do you all think this would be an issue during an interview? I plan on using my paper logbooks as my official logbook, but the whole point of getting the electronic one was to have an easy way to sort my flight time by type since I'm almost north of 10k hours and I cannot imagine doing that by hand.

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Can you change the setting in your eLogbook to display the flight times in X.X format? If so, Id take the time to make it match the paper logbooks.
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:19 PM   #3  
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Can you change the setting in your eLogbook to display the flight times in X.X format? If so, Id take the time to make it match the paper logbooks.
No, unfortunately not possible. And the thing is that it displays flight times in decimals (X.X), but it adds actual hours. That's why it took me so long to find out why numbers weren't matching. mccPilotLog. Works well otherwise though.
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No, unfortunately not possible. And the thing is that it displays flight times in decimals (X.X), but it adds actual hours. That's why it took me so long to find out why numbers weren't matching. mccPilotLog. Works well otherwise though.
Make the electronic logbook your main source. Most people do it anyways
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No, unfortunately not possible. And the thing is that it displays flight times in decimals (X.X), but it adds actual hours. That's why it took me so long to find out why numbers weren't matching. mccPilotLog. Works well otherwise though.
There is a way to solve this but it'll be labor intensive.

You have to go edit the block times to match the rounded times in your paper logbook.

I use MCC pilot log too and since I keep paper still too and want them to match I go back thru the imported times and fix them to match. I.e. if a flight blocked 1:38, I go back in and edit the out and in's to make it 1:36.

Some other electronic logbooks will automatically round but MCC does not and their help article on the issue says they think it's totally fine that's how it works, they believe it to be more accurate.
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There is a way to solve this but it'll be labor intensive.

You have to go edit the block times to match the rounded times in your paper logbook.

I use MCC pilot log too and since I keep paper still too and want them to match I go back thru the imported times and fix them to match. I.e. if a flight blocked 1:38, I go back in and edit the out and in's to make it 1:36.

Some other electronic logbooks will automatically round but MCC does not and their help article on the issue says they think it's totally fine that's how it works, they believe it to be more accurate.
Labor intensive, for sure. Especially since I already have about 8k airline hours logged on mcc, so going back and changing every single leg is not a realistic option.

I guess I'll just explain the issue if it ever comes up in an interview.

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I wont be of any help but WTF is up with this nickle and diming by these airlines.
Its like obsessive fixation on something irrelevant.
You have years of airline experience, PRIA, type ratings all the scars to prove it and theyre going to trip over a line item.
Ridiculous.
Especially since almost everybody stops logging once youre hired by a major.

* I keep a paper logbook for nostalgic reasons.

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Should I ask my flight school for my flight hour records to provide to any regional airline that I might interview with or is that something they would request directly from my school.
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Don't change a thing. Show them your paper lots. Or use the electronic one and be done with it, and if the times don't mesh, it is what it is.

Round them off.
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Don't change a thing. Show them your paper lots. Or use the electronic one and be done with it, and if the times don't mesh, it is what it is.

Round them off.
^^^^This X-1000!
If you've been diligent and kept your paper logbooks with over 8k hours of flight time, any interviewer will be perfectly satisfied with your record keeping.

In the interview, if it comes up, tell him/her exactly what you posted first and they'll be more than satisfied with both your reason for going electronic and paper. Take pride in both methods as it shows attention-to-detail.

Besides, the way the math works out on some of the application supplements, and each company's definitions of PIC/SIC/solo/dual-given/etc, getting 'all the columns' to add up within a few percentage points is very difficult.
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