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Old 03-13-2020, 02:53 PM
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I hope I don't become miserable like you. I'm sorry this career has been unfair to you. Now let me go cry in my 100k porche
I had a $900 subaru station wagon at 17 and I was thankful for each person who took the time to go out of their way to give me real world career advice. You haven't even taken an introductory flight yet. I would do that first, then that would allow you to reassess how you would like to move forward with training and a potential career in aviation.
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:08 PM
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I hope I don't become miserable like you. I'm sorry this career has been unfair to you. Now let me go cry in my 100k porche
you mean Mommy and Daddy’s Porsche......there are a lot of guys just like you, who haven’t made it into the pointy end of a big jet...they too had all the answers at one point. Learn to be humble, and appreciate the opportunities you’re given. Being spoiled or acting entitled are 2 things that will make the path harder for you.
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Old 03-15-2020, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatcat View Post
I hope I don't become miserable like you. I'm sorry this career has been unfair to you. Now let me go cry in my 100k porche
Many of the folks on this board are multi-millionaires, and not impressed by your car because theirs cost even more, and they have four of them, plus a boat. And three houses too.

My gut feel after reading all of this is that aviation is probably not for you.
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Old 03-16-2020, 09:02 AM
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Many of the folks on this board are multi-millionaires, and not impressed by your car because theirs cost even more, and they have four of them, plus a boat. And three houses too.

My gut feel after reading all of this is that aviation is probably not for you.
hmmm...... aren't those the same people who complain about getting paid peanuts?

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Old 03-16-2020, 10:29 AM
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hmmm...... aren't those the same people who complain about getting paid peanuts?

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..... you are 17. You are talking to some guys on this board who have been flying planes 1-2 times as long as you have been alive. You have had 0 life experience as an adult and until you get into the real world as an adult you don't know what you don't know. In 10-15 years you will realize that.

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I hope I don't become miserable like you. I'm sorry this career has been unfair to you. Now let me go cry in my 100k porche
Comments like this make you appear very immature.

You came on here looking for advice. Stay humble and don't make snarky comments.
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Old 03-16-2020, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatcat View Post
thank you sir, I'm thinking about getting my bachelors in aviation and my master's in business or aviation management. What do you think?
I don't think you're getting the message. People here have tried to advise you against this plan because a degree in something else useful is going to give you depth in education and qualifications in case you do need to move on to plan B or C. You're not listening, which is your option.

How about this: If you want to be a pilot, getting a bachelor's degree in aviation isn't going to help you do that. It certainly won't make you a better pilot. Flying airplanes makes you a better pilot. Adding an aviation related master's degree is just compounding your mistake. Major airlines looking for pilots want one thing. A bachelor's degree in..... whatever. They don't care. They just want to see you filled the square and got reasonably good grades.

If you don't believe me just look at the news. Thanks to the coronavirus fiasco, there are about to be a bunch of highly experienced airline pilots facing the prospect of being laid off. The ones with degrees and life experience outside of aviation are going to have a much better chance of landing new employment. The one's with a bachelor's in aviation and a masters in aviation management are going be one of many in a long line of the "eggs in one basket" guys looking for non-existent back-up employment in an aviation field that will be shrinking significantly for an undetermined period.

So, once again - if you somehow have been led to believe that aviation related degrees are somehow going to help you attain the goal of completing pilot training, getting ratings, hours and an eventual pilot job at a major airline, you have been given some bad advice.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:57 AM
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I don't think you're getting the message. People here have tried to advise you against this plan because a degree in something else useful is going to give you depth in education and qualifications in case you do need to move on to plan B or C. You're not listening, which is your option.

How about this: If you want to be a pilot, getting a bachelor's degree in aviation isn't going to help you do that. It certainly won't make you a better pilot. Flying airplanes makes you a better pilot. Adding an aviation related master's degree is just compounding your mistake. Major airlines looking for pilots want one thing. A bachelor's degree in..... whatever. They don't care. They just want to see you filled the square and got reasonably good grades.

If you don't believe me just look at the news. Thanks to the coronavirus fiasco, there are about to be a bunch of highly experienced airline pilots facing the prospect of being laid off. The ones with degrees and life experience outside of aviation are going to have a much better chance of landing new employment. The one's with a bachelor's in aviation and a masters in aviation management are going be one of many in a long line of the "eggs in one basket" guys looking for non-existent back-up employment in an aviation field that will be shrinking significantly for an undetermined period.

So, once again - if you somehow have been led to believe that aviation related degrees are somehow going to help you attain the goal of completing pilot training, getting ratings, hours and an eventual pilot job at a major airline, you have been given some bad advice.
So today i called kent state admissions office and asked if I can major in something else and still get my ratings. They said i can still fly and major in something different. That's what I plan on doing. I'll probably major in business or something useful while still flying.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:34 PM
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:12 PM
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I'm 17 and will be going to college this fall
I was 17 in 2001 when 9/11 happened, same thing that parents did not want me to be an airline pilot. Yet I did it anyway. Stay focused, get a 1st class medical, do good in school, choose a non-aviation college degree program you like, and slowly start flying on the side.



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With all due respect sir but your time was different than now. You can't compare the industry in the 90s to now. We're in a different decade which means different opportunities. Also, the Kent State program flight fees is really affordable and I'm in state.
Listen to the pilots here, the people you are writing off (like Galaxy Flyer) have decades of experience in this field. Different decades but guess what, aviation is still cyclical and will ALWAYS have ups and downs. I can’t even count the amount of times I heard that 2020 was the year hiring was going to be like gang busters because retirements were going to be through the roof. Then a thing called Coronavirus came along. And if it isn’t that, it’ll be a war, a financial crisis/market meltdown, mergers, airline shutdowns, terrorist attacks, any of a plethora of things that have affected our careers through the decades. You’d be wise to read more here and type less.
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I was 17 in 2001 when 9/11 happened, same thing that parents did not want me to be an airline pilot. Yet I did it anyway. Stay focused, get a 1st class medical, do good in school, choose a non-aviation college degree program you like, and slowly start flying on the side.





Listen to the pilots here, the people you are writing off (like Galaxy Flyer) have decades of experience in this field. Different decades but guess what, aviation is still cyclical and will ALWAYS have ups and downs. I can’t even count the amount of times I heard that 2020 was the year hiring was going to be like gang busters because retirements were going to be through the roof. Then a thing called Coronavirus came along. And if it isn’t that, it’ll be a war, a financial crisis/market meltdown, mergers, airline shutdowns, terrorist attacks, any of a plethora of things that have affected our careers through the decades. You’d be wise to read more here and type less.
I'm sorry for my ignorance sir. I've came realize aviation degrees are useless when furloughed, or you lose your medical, or don't plan on flying anymore. So I'm planning on majoring in something useful business, computer science, etc. And take some of the flight courses, so I can still fly and major in something else usefel just in case anything happens. Thank you sir, once again you're right I should listen more and type less.
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