I have a friend who was hired on at PSA. He went through the first 8 sessions and was told that he needed more sims before the check ride. He didn't fail or unsat any lessons. He completed those lessons and was asked by the CP to either resign or get fired. He chose to be fired.

For future applications/employers, does he have to put on his resume & PRIA forms that he worked for PSA? Again, no failures or unsats so nothing would come up on a PRIA form anyway, just a story about why he quit training at a 121 airline.

Thanks in advance.

 

I'm a little confused. If your "friend" worked for PSA, then he worked for a 14CFR Part 121 carrier. Period. If he resigned or was fired, he still worked there and that employment would be on his background check and PRIA record.

One thing is for certain. If he didn't report that employment and termination, and any number of carriers found out about it, after the fact, it's a sure way out the door without a legal leg to stand on.

Just my two cents...but I've spent a lot of time with pilot hiring and background checks.

G'Luck to your "friend".

 

It's not in your PRIA record because there is no such thing. PRIA is a system which requires airlines to obtain records from the FAA and previous employers.

You would be required to report a previous 121 employer when you fill out the PRIA forms, and a new employer would then obtain documentation from PSA indicating that you were fired for ______.

The cause of the termination will be reported...presumably that will be poor training performance. The fact that no checkrides were failed simply means your performance in training was so bad that the instructor did not want to sign an 8710. Or maybe the instructor hated your guts (it happens).

Bottom line, yes you have to report it, yes the new employer will get the records, and yes this will make it hard for you to get a 121 job. The best way to overcome this is go fly some 135, hopefully some turbine/crew operations and build more time. After you build a history of passing 135 rides, the regionals will look at you again.

 

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Makes perfect sense. I had a feeling that it would be required, but really, how would a new employer know he worked at PSA of the CRJ isn't on his certificate and no check ride failures?

Thanks.

 

Somehow they just seem to find out...almost every airline new-hire class has one guy who gets pulled out of class in the middle of the day around week 2-3 and is never heard from again.

How would explain the gap in employment? You are always required to document what/where you were doing...work, school, or unemployed. They pay close attention to unemployment periods, they know how long it usually takes to bust out of training...you would not be the first to try this.

What happens when they call the employer you had before PSA? You sure they won't mention that you left for PSA? The airline will be particularly inquisitive since you resigned from that employer only to be become "unemployed"...they will suspect you were fired from THAT job and will naturally wonder why.

Also PSA probably ran a TSA background check on you...I don't know for sure, but knowing the government I suspect they keep records of that.

 

If you got paid in training, there is a record. (Tax information)

Remember, the company has to run a 10 year background check on you for security purposes. Employment is included in that check.

 

True story... Thanks again for the responses.

 

It can be done, but it does take time and perseverance.