Yeahhhhhh!!!!!!! You tell him what's up with your sweet Riddle degree and 18,000 a year salary.

 

Haha!! Right. I forgot how you and I are friends and you know everything about me. I forgot that time when we were in college together and you puked all over yourself because you can't hold your liquor. Oh, the times we had! And then later when we got hired at GoJet together, we said, "Screw those guys with real contracts!" I remember. You and me, GlobeTreker, friends forever.

Get real, dude. Here's why you get a bachelor's degree: You are going to get furloughed and need a back up plan. Period.

 

So someone who graduates college with a communications degree and 40k+ in debt is more rounded than a person who worked after high school and had no debt?

Maybe they are just propping up the Student loan market, and the universities who keep increasing their tuition every year.

 

Now this is curious....


back to the OP-
Is this a common occurrence with majors? Needing the degree BEFORE you get hired with a regional? Or is it just a preference thing/way to thin the field of potential applicants? Maybe I'm missing something here...

 

Yep, same reason a dog licks his balls. Because he can.

Nope, you DON'T need 1500 hrs to be issued a PIC type rating. You can be a private pilot with way less than 1500 hours and issued a PIC type rating with a VFR restriction on it. YES they're out there. You can be a private pilot with an instrument rating with way less than 1500 hours, and STILL be issued an unrestricted PIC type rating.

The 1500 hours is for the ATP issuance ONLY, has noting to do with an unrestricted type.

 

Sure, hanging out in college for "four" years shows commitment. Biggest waste of money for a pilot. Just saw a segment on abc about student debt. 94% of this years grads will have debt greater than 23k.
More rounded person? I never really understood that. Maybe more brainwashed. Btw, I DO have a four year degree, but consider it a useless piece of paper, esp in this field.
Commitment? Doesn't getting all your ratings, certificates and hours show commitment? Heck, doesn't filling out the delta app show commitment.
IMHO, next to bottled water, college is one of the great scams of our time.

 

Sorry Slats, but that train has left the station.
fbh

 

In this field it's more about performance than pedigree. Along the same lines would an aviation employer be more apt to hire a person with a degree from Harvard that the Detroit Polytechnical Institute for the criminally minded?

One would think that if it were truly "important" a certain degree field would be required. NASA for example eliminates certain degree fields for astronaut applicants - even for non-pilot mission specialists. If you've got a degree in communications, sports medicine, art history, ancient languages, or psychology (guilty!), you can't apply. You can however fly a part 121 aircraft with said degrees. Kind of minimizes the relevance of the actual degree.

 

I'm not sure how much time you've spent with "uneducated" (no-college) people. It is definitely possible that they can end up fine with a good understanding of how the world works and how to get stuff done. For those that have succeeded in their carreer, I'd say this is a given. The thing is, at least with my experience, many uneducated people do not have a grasp on how the world works. They have many completely wrong understandings of concepts and how to accomplish goals. This isn't meant to be a plug for college and make it sound like some kind of magical-personal development tool, but having spent lots of time with both (in the Army, professional realms, etc), there is a significant difference usually. I can definitely understand any business that "doesn't want to deal" with someone that doesn't have basic college education. Again, it's not a magic-end-all/be-all, but many uneducated people lack basic problem solving and conceptual skills.

Maybe getting "all your ratings" does much the same thing, but in that case I'd assume there's the possibility for too much variability.

 

Given the dumbing down of our nation's public schooling system over the past 40 years, a Bachelor's Degree is essentially the new high school diploma. It shouldn't be as expensive as it is, agreed. But most of the pilots with absolutely crushing student loan debt, myself included, got an aviation degree despite all the advice out there to get a degree in an unrelated field. Had I wised up and chosen to get a degree in, say, business communication, I would have graduated with under 20k in debt and all of that in low-interest Stafford Loans. And despite majoring in a completely useless field like aviation, I agree with the previous poster that I was far better educated, more knowledgeable about the world, and better able to express myself after I went to college than when I graduated high school. You can't fault employers for preferring that in the people they hire.