Western Global Airlines
#541
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 319
The flip side to that argument is that their aircraft are mostly owner outright, they seem to continually be acquiring new metal (including an order for 2 brand new 777Fs and one optioned), they haven't "lost" any significant flying (apart from the UPS flying lost due to UPS scope) - and seem to be gaining flying each time I look, etc. From the outward appearances it seems things are strategically going "to plan"; though with it being a relatively low key and privately held company it's hard to be certain - and it wouldn't be the first time someone misjudged something, myself included. The abundance of parked aircraft at a specific moment would raise questions, though to get a good gauge on it you'd need to look at it from a quarterly perspective at least.
#542
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,023
I flew 412 to SHV on 21 April and I was surprised to only see 3 MD-11s there. 435, another hard broken airplane and 784, which had just arrived from FRA. Your list shows that I should have seen 5 aircraft according to the dates you show they arrived in SHV. You say there are 5 there now.
You have a truth problem. As you brought it up, the status of the four airplanes I cited on June 10th as being in Shreveport, are as follows:
N411SN: Arrived in Shreveport on October 15, 2021, from Anchorage,, and has not departed.
N546JN: Arrived in Shreveport on December 31, 2021, from Los Angeles, and has not departed.
N581JN: Arrived in Shreveport on March 27th, 2022, from MSY. A flight from LAX to SHV was attempted on March 21, but diverted to MSY, and sat there for six days, before positioning to Shreveport, where is has been since.
N784JN: Arrived in Shreveport on April 20th, 2022, from Frankfurt. It has not departed.
All easily verified.
Your lies are not made in ignorance. You know the truth. You refuse to tell it.
I listed the position of the aircraft twice preivously; this is the third time. The first time was on February 8th (post 425) in response to a post by wingdeagle11's assertion that aircraft went to RSW for planned maintenance and upgrades, and would be back in service in two days. Satpak77 called out the large presence in RSW. I noted what was there. Simple facts. The second time I cited, was on February 25th (post 452), in defense of WGA. In that case, a poster, who made threats against WGA and who has since been banned, lied about the WGA aircraft status, and I posted their current status and noted that despite the poster's lie, not all WGA aircraft were parked. You'll note, if you read that post, that my citation of WGA aircraft based on their current status at the time, was in defense of WGA.
You are certainly an apologist for the company, and a cheerleader, but one who lies a lot. You should stop.
Last edited by JohnBurke; 06-11-2022 at 10:10 PM.
#543
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 77
The information I posted was current on the day I posted it. I did not post on April 21st. You cannot speak, but to tell a lie. I posted yesterday, June 10. That post cited N411SN, N546JN, N581JN, N784SN. Four airplanes. You state that I identified five in Shreveport. This is a lie on your part. I did not cite N435KD as being in Shreveport, specifically, though YOU identify it as being there.
You have a truth problem. As you brought it up, the status of the four airplanes I cited on June 10th as being in Shreveport, are as follows:
N411SN: Arrived in Shreveport on October 15, 2021, from Anchorage,, and has not departed.
N546JN: Arrived in Shreveport on December 31, 2021, from Los Angeles, and has not departed.
N581JN: Arrived in Shreveport on March 27th, 2022, from MSY. A flight from LAX to SHV was attempted on March 21, but diverted to MSY, and sat there for six days, before positioning to Shreveport, where is has been since.
N784JN: Arrived in Shreveport on April 20th, 2022, from Frankfurt. It has not departed.
All easily verified.
Your lies are not made in ignorance. You know the truth. You refuse to tell it.
Again, you lie.
I listed the position of the aircraft twice preivously; this is the third time. The first time was on February 8th (post 425) in response to a post by wingdeagle11's assertion that aircraft went to RSW for planned maintenance and upgrades, and would be back in service in two days. Satpak77 called out the large presence in RSW. I noted what was there. Simple facts. The second time I cited, was on February 25th (post 452), in defense of WGA. In that case, a poster, who made threats against WGA and who has since been banned, lied about the WGA aircraft status, and I posted their current status and noted that despite the poster's lie, not all WGA aircraft were parked. You'll note, if you read that post, that my citation of WGA aircraft based on their current status at the time, was in defense of WGA.
You are certainly an apologist for the company, and a cheerleader, but one who lies a lot. You should stop.
You have a truth problem. As you brought it up, the status of the four airplanes I cited on June 10th as being in Shreveport, are as follows:
N411SN: Arrived in Shreveport on October 15, 2021, from Anchorage,, and has not departed.
N546JN: Arrived in Shreveport on December 31, 2021, from Los Angeles, and has not departed.
N581JN: Arrived in Shreveport on March 27th, 2022, from MSY. A flight from LAX to SHV was attempted on March 21, but diverted to MSY, and sat there for six days, before positioning to Shreveport, where is has been since.
N784JN: Arrived in Shreveport on April 20th, 2022, from Frankfurt. It has not departed.
All easily verified.
Your lies are not made in ignorance. You know the truth. You refuse to tell it.
Again, you lie.
I listed the position of the aircraft twice preivously; this is the third time. The first time was on February 8th (post 425) in response to a post by wingdeagle11's assertion that aircraft went to RSW for planned maintenance and upgrades, and would be back in service in two days. Satpak77 called out the large presence in RSW. I noted what was there. Simple facts. The second time I cited, was on February 25th (post 452), in defense of WGA. In that case, a poster, who made threats against WGA and who has since been banned, lied about the WGA aircraft status, and I posted their current status and noted that despite the poster's lie, not all WGA aircraft were parked. You'll note, if you read that post, that my citation of WGA aircraft based on their current status at the time, was in defense of WGA.
You are certainly an apologist for the company, and a cheerleader, but one who lies a lot. You should stop.
#544
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,023
There's no trolling, brightspark. There's no restriction posting in multiple forums. You don't understand this?
Why post here? If you haven't figured it out, clearly it's beyond your understanding. No need to waste further time with you.
Why post here? If you haven't figured it out, clearly it's beyond your understanding. No need to waste further time with you.
#545
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 319
Does this John guy think he's too cool for school or the arbiter of all things airplane related? I've flown with some clowns in my time - but I can only imagine what kind of nightmare a pairing with him must be like.
#546
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 504
Are the international bases (AMS, DWC, ICN, BOG) up and running already? Except ICN, there seem to be no flights scheduled to those airports, according to the ones listed on the company jumpseat section.
Will the company provide hotels there? How senior are those bases? 747 or MD11?
With the home being, does travel start on day 0 or 1?
Thanks.
Will the company provide hotels there? How senior are those bases? 747 or MD11?
With the home being, does travel start on day 0 or 1?
Thanks.
#547
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: MD-11
Posts: 62
Are the international bases (AMS, DWC, ICN, BOG) up and running already? Except ICN, there seem to be no flights scheduled to those airports, according to the ones listed on the company jumpseat section.
Will the company provide hotels there? How senior are those bases? 747 or MD11?
With the home being, does travel start on day 0 or 1?
Thanks.
Will the company provide hotels there? How senior are those bases? 747 or MD11?
With the home being, does travel start on day 0 or 1?
Thanks.
#549
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: MD-11
Posts: 62
Of the 32 available FO bid-lines this month, 25 are 17 day lines and 7 are 20 day lines. Because some prefer 20 day lines, WGA is trying to find the right balance of 17 and 20 day lines. Recently, there has been enough volunteers at 2X pay to cover any outstanding requirements. Taking a job at WGA means accepting extensions to 20 days, if required, There are some senior FOs that like the 20 day bidlines with the guaranteed OT, so as a junior guy, 17 day lines are a good possibility. Over the last two years, I have averaged 64 block hours a month, but I average 19 days a month. Some guys time out in 17 days, but I never have.
#550
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Position: 747 FO
Posts: 5
Hello guys,
What is competitive minimum for new hire these days? Will having b767 type rating but low turbine time (Part 121 500 sic, 2000TT) help to get a better chance to get a call? I am very interested in WGA cause they have international bases.
What is competitive minimum for new hire these days? Will having b767 type rating but low turbine time (Part 121 500 sic, 2000TT) help to get a better chance to get a call? I am very interested in WGA cause they have international bases.
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