ATI Numbers Leaked
03-02-2018 | 08:21 PM
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Jason I seriously doubt your sources. First of all those guys are in DC and the whole thing is very tightlipped. Maybe it is a turd. Believe me we’ll shoot it down if it is. Number one I know there’s more money on the table number two I don’t think it will go to mediation.
Sounds like him he’s gonna put out there TA next week as well. Who knows perhaps we have a me to clause in there. Either way this ATI pilot won’t settle for turd contract in this environment And most of the pilots I know I feel the same way, we just like to keep it professional.
Sounds like him he’s gonna put out there TA next week as well. Who knows perhaps we have a me to clause in there. Either way this ATI pilot won’t settle for turd contract in this environment And most of the pilots I know I feel the same way, we just like to keep it professional.
03-02-2018 | 09:40 PM
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The Company's proposals are identical as far as annual salary guarantee. The offer amount at ABX was based on a 64 hour guarantee and the guarantee TA'd at ATI was based on 60 hours for 13 bid periods. The total annual guaranteed salary at both is the same. The big difference is those rates were rejected at ABX but apparently accepted by the MEC at ATI. It is 15 month old Kalitta pay rates. Kalitta is already into their 3rd month of DOS +1, which I believe contained a 5% increase. The rates lag a year behind Kalitta throughout the life of the contract.
03-03-2018 | 03:27 AM
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The Company's proposals are identical as far as annual salary guarantee. The offer amount at ABX was based on a 64 hour guarantee and the guarantee TA'd at ATI was based on 60 hours for 13 bid periods. The total annual guaranteed salary at both is the same. The big difference is those rates were rejected at ABX but apparently accepted by the MEC at ATI. It is 15 month old Kalitta pay rates. Kalitta is already into their 3rd month of DOS +1, which I believe contained a 5% increase. The rates lag a year behind Kalitta throughout the life of the contract.
03-03-2018 | 07:27 AM
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Ok like the Pay Scale or Not....
Whoever posted the proposed TA payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (Too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
That information, if real is stolen goods, maybe HR will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an Informed decision!
Whoever posted the proposed TA payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (Too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
That information, if real is stolen goods, maybe HR will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an Informed decision!
03-03-2018 | 07:43 AM
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ok like the pay scale or not....
Whoever posted the proposed ta payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
that information, if real is stolen goods, maybe hr will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an informed decision!
Whoever posted the proposed ta payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
that information, if real is stolen goods, maybe hr will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an informed decision!
what he said!!
03-03-2018 | 08:51 AM
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Ok like the Pay Scale or Not....
Whoever posted the proposed TA payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (Too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
That information, if real is stolen goods, maybe HR will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an Informed decision!
Whoever posted the proposed TA payscale, should be in my humble opinion should be hung, if not prosecuted legally. (Too bad they wiped the metadata from the pic)
That information, if real is stolen goods, maybe HR will get involved?
Wait for the package, then make an Informed decision!
So hang someone for posting the truth? When you keep everything a secret and then try to justify why you fell short, you sir are the one who needs punishment!
Obviously the picture was. Taken by someone with access to the proposal and feels differently than you. Maybe he actually has some courage to say trying to sell a substandard contract is BS! I hope this goes down just like the first Delta and Southwest TA and them they come back with a real contract.
03-03-2018 | 09:44 AM
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Typical ALPA sales job. This person was influenced by alpa staff. These aresales job words. "Nevermind we are behind the rest of the industry in rates look at the language we cleaned up." When will they ever just do their job and pattern bargin it today's environment?
So hang someone for posting the truth? When you keep everything a secret and then try to justify why you fell short, you sir are the one who needs punishment!
Obviously the picture was. Taken by someone with access to the proposal and feels differently than you. Maybe he actually has some courage to say trying to sell a substandard contract is BS! I hope this goes down just like the first Delta and Southwest TA and them they come back with a real contract.
So hang someone for posting the truth? When you keep everything a secret and then try to justify why you fell short, you sir are the one who needs punishment!
Obviously the picture was. Taken by someone with access to the proposal and feels differently than you. Maybe he actually has some courage to say trying to sell a substandard contract is BS! I hope this goes down just like the first Delta and Southwest TA and them they come back with a real contract.
I have voted No on Every Contract at this company. And will probably Vote No on this one. Yes im Legacy ATI if you are wondering.. I am guessing you are not ATI at all.
But if you think STEALING confidential information is Courageous and/or Honorable, then my friend you are a moron.
We do not join a Union, ALPA, Teamsters or whatever to have Chaos in the Negotiating Process. If You think you can do better, when this dog is voted down, Volunteer for the Committee. Then if some Jacka$$ subverts your work by Stealing information, tell me if that works for you.
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