ATI Numbers Leaked
03-05-2018 | 11:12 AM
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Prediction: ATI doesnt even come close to those numbers because they have "Amazon" dreams. When asked who they work for, I bet over 75% say "Amazon Prime Air" when they should just say "some crappy cargo outfit at CVG".
Does saying you work for Amazon actually pay the bills? Instead of sending a check to the electric company just put a little note in the envelope that says "I work for Amazon" or send a picture of you in front of your Prime Air 767.....you can use the same picture you have posted to Facebook.
I feel bad for all the ACMI pilots hoping ATI pilots do the right thing.
03-05-2018 | 12:03 PM
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Those are good observations. You could also add if they can pay their electric bill with the “home basing” benefits. Or send their kids to college and/or buy a car. They are allowing themselves to be fooled by the rhetoric from ATSG management claiming home basing is worth somewhere between $30k and $17k. I recommend to take the money and buy your own tickets if that’s so important to you. I guarantee you won’t spend that much money.
I wonder if the Omni pilots fell for the same rhetoric about home basing value. Management will always over value talking points, that's their job, to sell us a bill of goods. A perfect example is ATI's brand new flight attendant contract that they passed. Laughing stock of the industry. Their MEC sold the membership down the river and they voted it in ...go figure. We can't afford that, Amazon won't pay for that, your not worth this, we can only pay this etc., etc., the list is exhausting. If the ATI pilots are stupid enough to vote a substandard long term contract in, then shame on them.
03-05-2018 | 03:13 PM
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I wonder if the Omni pilots fell for the same rhetoric about home basing value. Management will always over value talking points, that's their job, to sell us a bill of goods. A perfect example is ATI's brand new flight attendant contract that they passed. Laughing stock of the industry. Their MEC sold the membership down the river and they voted it in ...go figure. We can't afford that, Amazon won't pay for that, your not worth this, we can only pay this etc., etc., the list is exhausting. If the ATI pilots are stupid enough to vote a substandard long term contract in, then shame on them.
03-05-2018 | 04:29 PM
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The very second the MEC appears to be doing a sales job to the pilot group, arguing in favor of management, you need to clean house, fire all of them. I witnessed this with BR at Mesa. Stockholm Syndrome is real, and those infected need to be removed from all union posts.
Tomorrow, the MEC, the company, the CNC. Will come out present and support this TA.
Da way it works bro
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03-06-2018 | 04:08 AM
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The very second the MEC appears to be doing a sales job to the pilot group, arguing in favor of management, you need to clean house, fire all of them. I witnessed this with BR at Mesa. Stockholm Syndrome is real, and those infected need to be removed from all union posts.
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03-06-2018 | 04:38 AM
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The very second the MEC appears to be doing a sales job to the pilot group, arguing in favor of management, you need to clean house, fire all of them. I witnessed this with BR at Mesa. Stockholm Syndrome is real, and those infected need to be removed from all union posts.
and it begins
03-06-2018 | 05:50 AM
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In all fairness it would make them the lowest paid widebody pilots in the schedule acmi lane segment, not currently in negotiations. In other words they would be the first group not to at least attain if not exceed the contracts of those who have recently completed new CBAs ahead of them, (i.e. Kalitta, Omni, much less the narrow body carriers like Spirit who also get compensated for 20-40% more credit hours each month on top of the hourly rate).
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