ATI Numbers Leaked
03-06-2018 | 09:03 AM
#81
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Sure thing. First of all, Kalitta pay does not have a narrow body "B" scale. Most importantly, Omni has set the new standard and if this TA is voted in it will be considered industry concessionary. ATSG had a chance to get this pilot group under contract back in the Fall, but instead played games. Don't fall for the fool's gold being offered!
03-06-2018 | 09:05 AM
#82
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If the TA pay scale started at DOS with K4 DOS+1 that would be true
03-06-2018 | 09:12 AM
#83
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From: B767 Capt.
The hourly pay and monthly guarantee are right here on APC. They even provide a handy calculator to determine annual guarantee.
So 12 year top captain pay for each airline currently is:
ABX $$178,704
Atlas $158,472
Amerijet $134,160
Southern $129,594
The Proposed TA would put a topped out Captain at $191,747 at DOS and $219,856 at the end of the contract.
So 12 year top captain pay for each airline currently is:
ABX $$178,704
Atlas $158,472
Amerijet $134,160
Southern $129,594
The Proposed TA would put a topped out Captain at $191,747 at DOS and $219,856 at the end of the contract.
C’mon Man!!
03-06-2018 | 09:16 AM
#84
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I agree. Fight the fight!
03-06-2018 | 09:22 AM
#85
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From: Apelo@290
Sure thing. First of all, Kalitta pay does not have a narrow body "B" scale. Most importantly, Omni has set the new standard and if this TA is voted in it will be considered industry concessionary. ATSG had a chance to get this pilot group under contract back in the Fall, but instead played games. Don't fall for the fool's gold being offered!
03-06-2018 | 09:24 AM
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Looking at this TA a few items that need commentary, seems like ppl are blinded by the potential $$ signs (which are not that great) and skimming over other points that make up this TA and the quality of your life.
*Business class travel...>8hrs segment..hmm how many times will we use that one?......NO
*Hotel accommodations layovers >8 hrs ...again won't be utilized....NO
*Per Diem rates....I like to eat healthy and good, this does not come close....NO
*Retirement....NO CHANGES capped by IRS not ATI...NO
*Recorded Data Protections?....Needs greater claification
*And last but certainly not least ....NO SIGNING BONUS ...WTFFF..NOOOO
***please help me understand again why this is good so I can vote yes. although it is a fair starting point it is very weak overall and we are leaving way too much on the table. please chime in luv to hear others views
*Business class travel...>8hrs segment..hmm how many times will we use that one?......NO
*Hotel accommodations layovers >8 hrs ...again won't be utilized....NO
*Per Diem rates....I like to eat healthy and good, this does not come close....NO
*Retirement....NO CHANGES capped by IRS not ATI...NO
*Recorded Data Protections?....Needs greater claification
*And last but certainly not least ....NO SIGNING BONUS ...WTFFF..NOOOO
***please help me understand again why this is good so I can vote yes. although it is a fair starting point it is very weak overall and we are leaving way too much on the table. please chime in luv to hear others views
Last edited by MentalMidget; 03-06-2018 at 09:42 AM.
03-06-2018 | 09:29 AM
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Take a look at the airline profiles on this site- less pay for smaller airplanes IS the industry standard. I’m surprised they didn’t try to reduce our 757 pay like they’ve tried in the past. Clearly Kalitta has no plans to operate any narrow bodies under the K4 certificate. I believe our 737 rates are still in effect and this should be a big improvement to them should we ever get some.
03-06-2018 | 09:32 AM
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Looking at this TA a few items that need commentary, seems like ppl are blinded by the potential $$ signs (which are not that great) and skimming over other points that make up this TA and the quality of your life.
*Business class travel...>8hrs segment..hmm how many times will we use that one?......NO
*Hotel accommodations layovers >8 hrs ...again won't be utilized....NO
*Per Diem rates....I like to eat healthy and good, this does not come close....NO
*Retirement....NO CHANGES capped by IRS not ATI...NO
*Recorded Data Protections?....WTF....NO
*And last but certainly not least ....NO SIGNING BONUS ...WTFFF..NOOOO
***please help me understand again why this is good so I can vote yes. although it is a fair starting point it is very weak overall and we are leaving way too much on the table. please chime in luv to hear others views
*Business class travel...>8hrs segment..hmm how many times will we use that one?......NO
*Hotel accommodations layovers >8 hrs ...again won't be utilized....NO
*Per Diem rates....I like to eat healthy and good, this does not come close....NO
*Retirement....NO CHANGES capped by IRS not ATI...NO
*Recorded Data Protections?....WTF....NO
*And last but certainly not least ....NO SIGNING BONUS ...WTFFF..NOOOO
***please help me understand again why this is good so I can vote yes. although it is a fair starting point it is very weak overall and we are leaving way too much on the table. please chime in luv to hear others views
03-06-2018 | 09:41 AM
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Take a look at the airline profiles on this site- less pay for smaller airplanes IS the industry standard. I’m surprised they didn’t try to reduce our 757 pay like they’ve tried in the past. Clearly Kalitta has no plans to operate any narrow bodies under the K4 certificate. I believe our 737 rates are still in effect and this should be a big improvement to them should we ever get some.
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