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Old 03-06-2018 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nope1000
If this TA passes (hope it doesn’t) would it make ATI the lowest paid unionized widebody pilots in North America?
No, ATIs annual guarantee would be higher than Atlas, Southern, ABX and Amerijet’s
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Old 03-06-2018 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by l8fr82hub
No, ATIs annual guarantee would be higher than Atlas, Southern, ABX and Amerijet’s
How about Kalitta or Omni?
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Old 03-06-2018 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by l8fr82hub
No, ATIs annual guarantee would be higher than Atlas, Southern, ABX and Amerijet’s
Could you please explain?
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gumpscheck
Could you please explain?
The hourly pay and monthly guarantee are right here on APC. They even provide a handy calculator to determine annual guarantee.

So 12 year top captain pay for each airline currently is:
ABX $$178,704
Atlas $158,472
Amerijet $134,160
Southern $129,594

The Proposed TA would put a topped out Captain at $191,747 at DOS and $219,856 at the end of the contract.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet
How about Kalitta or Omni?
The question was would ATI be the lowest paid union airline in the US. Clearly we would not be.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by l8fr82hub
The hourly pay and monthly guarantee are right here on APC. They even provide a handy calculator to determine annual guarantee.

So 12 year top captain pay for each airline currently is:
ABX $$178,704
Atlas $158,472
Amerijet $134,160
Southern $129,594

The Proposed TA would put a topped out Captain at $191,747 at DOS and $219,856 at the end of the contract.
All of these carriers are in negotiations, except Amerjet who is not in the same business segment as the others, (express acmi), and therefore is not a comparative. You don't look at already amendable contracts to compare but recenty settled ones. In this segment that is Kalitta and Omni, and actually Omni does not even have the luxury of an express company providing deep pockets as a customer.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by freighthound
All of these carriers are in negotiations, except Amerjet who is not in the same business segment as the others, (express acmi), and therefore is not a comparative. You don't look at already amendable contracts to compare but recenty settled ones. In this segment that is Kalitta and Omni, and actually Omni does not even have the luxury of an express company providing deep pockets as a customer.
The question was:
If this TA passes (hope it doesn’t) would it make ATI the lowest paid unionized widebody pilots in North America?

The answer is clearly no. And as long as our “sister” company seems content to work under their 2009 concessionary contract indefinitely it’s probably not gonna change.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:46 AM
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Food for thought, my first year FO pay at K4 grossed 130k, others have done better. Second year fo guys easily topping over 150k gross. Third year CA’s easily over 200k gross. Difference between a 767 and 747 isn’t enough to justify lower pay, you all are worth the same pay we get.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Food for thought, my first year FO pay at K4 grossed 130k, others have done better. Second year fo guys easily topping over 150k gross. Third year CA’s easily over 200k gross. Difference between a 767 and 747 isn’t enough to justify lower pay, you all are worth the same pay we get.
I was only comparing minimum guarantee because that’s the only apples to apples comparison we can make. We have guys that make A LOT of overtime. I rarely do any extra flying and I still made an extra 10% last year.
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Old 03-06-2018 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by l8fr82hub
I was only comparing minimum guarantee because that’s the only apples to apples comparison we can make. We have guys that make A LOT of overtime. I rarely do any extra flying and I still made an extra 10% last year.
My 130k is based on maybe 10 days worth of OT for the year. I routinely fly 85 to 95 hours a month with no OT. I suppose it is the same at ATI? Or do you guys mostly do domestic hub flying?
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