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Old 04-02-2007, 02:57 PM
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Thanks Mark, was pretty sure all of that went the way of the ghost.

Actually looks like a better format.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy View Post
Good luck getting it to grievance.

With our own "contract specialist"(David) referring to the FCIF...I don't think you have much of a chance.
Well, when, and if I do get to grieve it, I have two trips and expense reports from last year that I can use as past practice evidence in favor of my stance.
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Well, when, and if I do get to grieve it, I have two trips and expense reports from last year that I can use as past practice evidence in favor of my stance.


Hmmm ... assuming the company won the grievance, could they re-audit your old expense reports? Just to make sure they were correct?



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Originally Posted by USMCFDX View Post
And since when does an FCIF trump the CBA?
Admittedly, I've only been here 11 years, but when an FCIF conflicts with the CBA, it pretty much falls under the "fly now, grieve later" theory. If you have protested to the company (Duty Off., Crew Pay, etc) and the answer is not to your liking, do the deed the company way and then take it to the union. To do otherwise risks your job, at least until a grievance is filed and won. If that doesn't go your way, you're really screwed.

BTW - When an FCIF addresses an Ops issue, do you ignore it because that's not what "We have been doing?"
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BTW - When an FCIF addresses an Ops issue, do you ignore it because that's not what "We have been doing?"
No, my point is the Union should do something about a BS FCIF. We negoitate a CBA, we don't get a contract via FCIF. If we did, we would have had one two years earlier.

I guess we can just make more back room deals, or not bother fighting for the little things and all will be well. It only affects a few guys in limited situations anyway so who really cares, ala passover pay.
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Joint Council Meeting on Wednesday, April 18th. Who wants to bring it up?







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Old 04-02-2007, 06:28 PM
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Hmmm ... assuming the company won the grievance, could they re-audit your old expense reports? Just to make sure they were correct?

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Here's two tidbits you might not realize are hidden in the contract about errors...

--The 60-day filing period for a
grievance shall be extended to 90 days in cases where there
is written evidence within the 60-day period that a pilot (or the
Association on behalf of a pilot) notified either FedEx Contract
Administration or a member of flight management of the
underlying issue in an attempt to resolve the matter within the
60 day filing period.

--The Company may take corrective action at any time upon the
discovery of clerical or bookkeeping errors, and the pilot shall
be given notice of such change.

You have 60 days extended to a max of 90 to file a grievance to get things such as back pay or other issues fixed. The company has no time limit to go after any errors they made. Three years from now they can say "we made a mistake and you owe us money"....you can't!

20.B.1. and 20.B.3.
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Question:

When, by FAR or CBA, you are released from duty for a specified amount of time after a duty period, is that:

a) how long until they can call you again or

b) how long until you can be back 'on duty' on the property again?(i.e. they can call you 1.5 hours before your duty begins/rest period ends)

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Old 04-04-2007, 04:31 PM
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They can call you whenever they want, but you are not obligated to answer. If they do contact you they are interrupting your rest period and they might be forced to start your rest period over again.

If you are released they shouldn't try to call you until the end of the rest period. They could assign you a trip during that time via VIPS but you are of course not obligated to check VIPS until you are back on duty (assuming you are on reserve). So you will have an hour and a half to report (or one hour with late call) after you go back on duty.
 
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More specific, The release time is longer than a legal rest period, but the trip gets 'called out' during my release window, but actually shows after it.
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