If everyone feels that way fine

Call us scabs, dont let us on your JS don’t hire ATI pilots at real jobs. Go ahead. No one cares. You want a seniorioty list so you can post all of our names? May even add us to the “secret” list by ALL MEANS go for it

 

Lol management troll.....First, it’s not a Secret list! Second, JV is already on it!

 

I am wondering why the bashing continues here. Folks, the contract is a done deal and will not change. They made a decision and that is that.

Think about when your parents lectured you on and on about a decision that you made. Remember how you perceived that. This is what is happening here.

Time to move onto another subject.

I have asked the moderator to please shut this down. There is not one bit of productive dialogue going on here.

Thank you.

 

Totally agree Max

 

This crap right here is the reason you never made it to any of those other places you listed. You’re a perfect match for ATI.

 

Actually I would prefer to keep this thread open. It’s one of the few online communications between ABX and ATI pilots.

ATI pilots voted in a substandard contract which was their right to do. Do agree with it? No
Is it going to change the odds of ABX getting a decent contract? Yes

The reality is it’s a **** sandwich and everyone’s going to have to take a bite. Obviously the ABX pilots bargaining position has been weakened. I am not sure by how much.

As time goes on I have a feeling that ATI pilots will be less enthusiastic about their new contract...

 

Yeah, I'm not sure exactly who died and made a Kalitta guy God in an ATI thread.

 

As usual your short sighted viewpoint comes through. A more mature individual would realize several things.

1. Creating animosity between the groups serves neither interest.
2. Because people tend to believe what they read on the internet, this low pay theme becomes a self fulfilling prophecy when the next pilot group votes on a concessionairy contract.
3. Management reads these things and will continue the hard stand because they know it is working.
4. Many more things.

Notice all of the above items do absolutely nothing to promote a better quality of life for our fellow pilots, including yourself. Worse case, it results in a physical altercation on an aircraft where multiple inviduals lose careers. Best case, it results in substandard contracts for ever more as management sits back and laughs at your petty fighting.

God? No. A unemotional voice of reason? Maybe.

 

I am a voice of reason. Please butt out of this conversation especially if you’re Kallita.

 

I think the only good thing from this situation, as far as future contracts, for everyone else in ACMI, as well as ATI, is the Pilot Shortage. Because it is steadily increasing, it is highly likely that ATSG mgmt will have to come back to ATI pilots well before the contract ends, and give them a better offer, because their attrition will be high, and they will have a hard time getting new hires with this new contract.