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Old 08-01-2018, 06:15 AM
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Same management here that ran Comair into the ground. Why? Why would anyone want to work for these people? Same regional style threats....we will take your airplanes. ..we might give you a few if you behave. They don't have a clue nobody cares about empty threats or weak promises.
Soapy = Comair? Well heck, maybe you guys will get some one better like John Ornstein?
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Soapy = Comair? Well heck, maybe you guys will get some one better like John Ornstein?


I had to look this guy up funny enough. The only comparison that didn’t line up is that Ornstein probably came to work everyday, where Soaper might show up 1 to 2 times a week. Now now...Maybe it is more times a week than that, but Its just what I’ve gathered from others.


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Old 08-02-2018, 05:51 PM
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Soapy = Comair? Well heck, maybe you guys will get some one better like John Ornstein?
Oh, and Southern. Putting him in the prez seat following the strike of 2016 was a clear message.
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:05 PM
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It really saddens me to watch this thread even as a K4 pilot. I'm a former Comair refugee that rode it too the end. Too see DS and your director of training SB still in the aviation world defines logic. Honestly I am surprised either is still walking this earth! DS was a piece of s@@t! Still is apparently!

I endured 6 years of those two sh@theads. I have zero positive things to say about either of those fools. I thought the point of capitalism was to make money not to run a company out of business.

I am honestly confused. Only been at K4 for 2 years on the 767 side but DHL keeps giving us ABX's flying. Even though we bailed out of the Teamsters I hope you guys don't feel we are stealing flying! We keep getting your routes. Not like we took a dive in a contract to get flying like ATI. We are actually the most expensive on the ramp right now if anything in CVG. We went ALPA to get away from DW. May backfire in the long run but time will tell! ATI not so much! ATI seems like a regional airline with bigger airplanes from what I can tell and Amazon bag tags are treated like bitcoins over there. I could care less. I have zero control over the business side of things!

I'm just a dumb line pilot and we regularly have ABX jumpseaters. As a pilot group you guys have been nothing but professional to us and hopefully we have been as well. It is really sad to watch the demise. I went through this at at Comair! Honestly surprised we didn't have a crash in 2012 during the last year. I wish nothing but the best for your pilot group.

I would rather see ATI disappear honestly. I hope you guys emerge from this. I am only posting because I have been through this once in my career! Payed the price by losing my job!

Closing....I hope you guys can emerge at the end. It's sad to watch. I already know what DS is capable of! I saw it first hand!

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Old 08-02-2018, 11:25 PM
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It really saddens me to watch this thread even as a K4 pilot. I'm a former Comair refugee that rode it too the end. Too see DS and your director of training SB still in the aviation world defines logic. Honestly I am surprised either is still walking this earth! DS was a piece of s@@t! Still is apparently!

I endured 6 years of those two sh@theads. I have zero positive things to say about either of those fools. I thought the point of capitalism was to make money not to run a company out of business.

I am honestly confused. Only been at K4 for 2 years on the 767 side but DHL keeps giving us ABX's flying. Even though we bailed out of the Teamsters I hope you guys don't feel we are stealing flying! We keep getting your routes. Not like we took a dive in a contract to get flying like ATI. We are actually the most expensive on the ramp right now if anything in CVG. We went ALPA to get away from DW. May backfire in the long run but time will tell! ATI not so much! ATI seems like a regional airline with bigger airplanes from what I can tell and Amazon bag tags are treated like bitcoins over there. I could care less. I have zero control over the business side of things!

I'm just a dumb line pilot and we regularly have ABX jumpseaters. As a pilot group you guys have been nothing but professional to us and hopefully we have been as well. It is really sad to watch the demise. I went through this at at Comair! Honestly surprised we didn't have a crash in 2012 during the last year. I wish nothing but the best for your pilot group.

I would rather see ATI disappear honestly. I hope you guys emerge from this. I am only posting because I have been through this once in my career! Payed the price by losing my job!

Closing....I hope you guys can emerge at the end. It's sad to watch. I already know what DS is capable of! I saw it first hand!
Hey thanks for the post! Soaper is finding the Scorpions and Bacardi’s hard to pushover. He may shutdown the airline, that’s their choice. We’re not going to give in to his ludicrous demands!
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:48 AM
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Hey thanks for the post! Soaper is finding the Scorpions and Bacardi’s hard to pushover. He may shutdown the airline, that’s their choice. We’re not going to give in to his ludicrous demands!
Well said. After reading the above why would anyone stay or come to ABX ? K4 is the place to be in acmi.
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It really saddens me to watch this thread even as a K4 pilot. I'm a former Comair refugee that rode it too the end. Too see DS and your director of training SB still in the aviation world defines logic. Honestly I am surprised either is still walking this earth! DS was a piece of s@@t! Still is apparently!

I endured 6 years of those two sh@theads. I have zero positive things to say about either of those fools. I thought the point of capitalism was to make money not to run a company out of business.

I am honestly confused. Only been at K4 for 2 years on the 767 side but DHL keeps giving us ABX's flying. Even though we bailed out of the Teamsters I hope you guys don't feel we are stealing flying! We keep getting your routes. Not like we took a dive in a contract to get flying like ATI. We are actually the most expensive on the ramp right now if anything in CVG. We went ALPA to get away from DW. May backfire in the long run but time will tell! ATI not so much! ATI seems like a regional airline with bigger airplanes from what I can tell and Amazon bag tags are treated like bitcoins over there. I could care less. I have zero control over the business side of things!

I'm just a dumb line pilot and we regularly have ABX jumpseaters. As a pilot group you guys have been nothing but professional to us and hopefully we have been as well. It is really sad to watch the demise. I went through this at at Comair! Honestly surprised we didn't have a crash in 2012 during the last year. I wish nothing but the best for your pilot group.

I would rather see ATI disappear honestly. I hope you guys emerge from this. I am only posting because I have been through this once in my career! Payed the price by losing my job!

Closing....I hope you guys can emerge at the end. It's sad to watch. I already know what DS is capable of! I saw it first hand!
Confused about getting ABX flying??? You sighed a new contract .DHL aircraft are always moved around . It is DHL's little shell game to keep the airlines in check. Once ABX and ATLAS sign a new contract the shuffling will begin again. Right now everyone is happy and wagging their tails at K4 and DHL is handing out dog treats for being good boys. DHL whipsaw.
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Old 08-04-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by point432 View Post
I had to look this guy up funny enough. The only comparison that didn’t line up is that Ornstein probably came to work everyday, where Soaper might show up 1 to 2 times a week. Now now...Maybe it is more times a week than that, but Its just what I’ve gathered from others.


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Ah, not so fast. If Soaper makes it into the convicted felons club, then maybe, he’ll be able to carry JOs water.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:57 PM
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24 767s
10-DHL
6-AMZ
1-SAS
1-AeroMex
1-CRAF
3-Spare
2-Heavy Check

Last news is SAS is done after September and CRAF is being negotiated.
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by C7fr8dog View Post
24 767s
10-DHL
6-AMZ
1-SAS
1-AeroMex
1-CRAF
3-Spare
2-Heavy Check

Last news is SAS is done after September and CRAF is being negotiated.
Isn’t Craf split with every other year between ATI? I wouldn’t be surprised if Aeromex leaves soon too. Seem like this place get worse by the day. N792AX, is being turned into a beer can in ILN.
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