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08-11-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Not quite correct. At least not correct any more. And, I know some ACMI carriers only carry freight, so this wouldn't apply but the FAA has redefined the ETOPS acronym to mean "Extended Operations" thus removing the "Two Engine" words from the title. It now applies to the 747 ... but only when carrying passengers.
"Even though for continuity with current two-engine ETOPS the existing acronym ETOPS is retained, the ETOPS acronym has been re-defined. ETOPS has been expanded to include all passenger-carrying airplane operations where a proposed flight plan includes any point that is greater than 180 minutes from an adequate airport (at an approved one-engine inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air)."
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ar/120-42B.pdf
edit ... OK. Birdsmash beat me to it by less than a minute!
"Even though for continuity with current two-engine ETOPS the existing acronym ETOPS is retained, the ETOPS acronym has been re-defined. ETOPS has been expanded to include all passenger-carrying airplane operations where a proposed flight plan includes any point that is greater than 180 minutes from an adequate airport (at an approved one-engine inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air)."
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ar/120-42B.pdf
edit ... OK. Birdsmash beat me to it by less than a minute!
08-11-2018, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Not quite correct. At least not correct any more. And, I know some ACMI carriers only carry freight, so this wouldn't apply but the FAA has redefined the ETOPS acronym to mean "Extended Operations" thus removing the "Two Engine" words from the title. It now applies to the 747 ... but only when carrying passengers.
"Even though for continuity with current two-engine ETOPS the existing acronym ETOPS is retained, the ETOPS acronym has been re-defined. ETOPS has been expanded to include all passenger-carrying airplane operations where a proposed flight plan includes any point that is greater than 180 minutes from an adequate airport (at an approved one-engine inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air)."
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ar/120-42B.pdf
edit ... OK. Birdsmash beat me to it by less than a minute!
"Even though for continuity with current two-engine ETOPS the existing acronym ETOPS is retained, the ETOPS acronym has been re-defined. ETOPS has been expanded to include all passenger-carrying airplane operations where a proposed flight plan includes any point that is greater than 180 minutes from an adequate airport (at an approved one-engine inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air)."
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ar/120-42B.pdf
edit ... OK. Birdsmash beat me to it by less than a minute!
08-11-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by goinaround
Yeah thats what I didn't quite understand. I've always understood ETOPS to be for twin engine operations only.
So it may be more company policy rather than FAR's
08-11-2018, 11:56 AM
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Link to the INFO paper on changes to ETOPS requirements:
Part 121
• All two-engine airplanes more than 60 minutes flying time from an adequate airport (at a one-engine-inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air).
• All passenger-carrying airplanes with more than two engines and more than 180 minutes flying time from an adequate airport (at a one-engine-inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air).
https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/avia.../inFO07004.pdf
Part 121
• All two-engine airplanes more than 60 minutes flying time from an adequate airport (at a one-engine-inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air).
• All passenger-carrying airplanes with more than two engines and more than 180 minutes flying time from an adequate airport (at a one-engine-inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air).
https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/avia.../inFO07004.pdf
11-01-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runner
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