Omni, Atlas, or Kalitta ?
08-08-2018, 09:12 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
its 105 heat index here in OSAN today..... but I know what you mean... it gets cold as %^&* here.
08-08-2018, 09:32 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by Asiabound
I was there for a few months last year, just breathing that imported Chinese air... ugh.
08-08-2018, 09:54 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by Geezer
K4 started in 2001. No furlough because of 9-11. Two furloughs, 2009 and 2013. Downgrades and a bunch of other fun stuff accompanied those time periods.
The last furlough... company announced the intention to furlough approx 30 pilots in the end they only furloughed 7......Of those 7 I believe only 1 or 2 returned at recall nearly two years later. Many believe and I am one of those that most of this furlough was to try to force our union to cave to their demands.. that didnt happen... we flew short staffed most of the time these guys were on furlough.. and when we did recall and begin hiring it has been non stop since.
08-08-2018, 11:58 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
For full disclosure.... the 2008/2009 furlough was too fast and too deep and the company admitted as much. Some guys were only furloughed 4-6 weeks...the longest was about 8 months I believe.... sucked yes.
The last furlough... company announced the intention to furlough approx 30 pilots in the end they only furloughed 7......Of those 7 I believe only 1 or 2 returned at recall nearly two years later. Many believe and I am one of those that most of this furlough was to try to force our union to cave to their demands.. that didnt happen... we flew short staffed most of the time these guys were on furlough.. and when we did recall and begin hiring it has been non stop since.
The last furlough... company announced the intention to furlough approx 30 pilots in the end they only furloughed 7......Of those 7 I believe only 1 or 2 returned at recall nearly two years later. Many believe and I am one of those that most of this furlough was to try to force our union to cave to their demands.. that didnt happen... we flew short staffed most of the time these guys were on furlough.. and when we did recall and begin hiring it has been non stop since.
08-08-2018, 01:14 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by Locke
You obviously haven’t been to Zhengzhou or Wuhan lately if you think the air in Korea is bad. But remember China is leading the way in green energy
08-08-2018, 02:47 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by lionflyer
Very true. The 2009 furlough arguably shouldn’t have happened. The company basically panicked at the impending apocalypse. The 2013 furlough was the result of the company being late to the ballgame in realizing nobody wanted 200 lift anymore. K4 only had about 4 400s at the time. Some 30 CAs got displaced and it took 3+ years to get the left seat back. Now upgrades are <2yrs. Go figure.
Now K4 has 22 400s operating and the 6th 767-300 is entering service today.
08-08-2018, 04:29 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
6 400s... but who's counting... and the ERF was bought during that time as well.... but yes... again... neither should have happened with a bit of planning.....
Now K4 has 22 400s operating and the 6th 767-300 is entering service today.
Now K4 has 22 400s operating and the 6th 767-300 is entering service today.
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