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Old 04-24-2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by A300_Driver
I sent an email to Contract Enforcement to see if anyone has brought it to their attention.
Good luck on that, since 4 I. 4 c. specifically addresses CBT. However, feel free to beat your head against the wall at crew pay and contract enforcement. I've done it a time or two, myself.
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Old 04-24-2007 | 10:28 PM
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Is there a a "quid pro quo" mechanism for dropping reserve days based entirely on picking up a specific trip, i.e., I drop two reserve days if you give me an imaginary a.m. PWM turn, or something. . . A colleague made a remark alluding to this but it was Ram dumped in lieu of something slightly more important, like locating the vending machine.
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Old 04-25-2007 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
Good luck on that, since 4 I. 4 c. specifically addresses CBT. However, feel free to beat your head against the wall at crew pay and contract enforcement. I've done it a time or two, myself.
And let us not forget how many guys have gotten similar headaches in the past from the "special training" clause:
11.B.2. Special instruction materials are designed to allow pilots to review recent developments or to address FAA suspense items. Materials shall not exceed 45 minutes in length and shall not be required more often than 4 times per year. The Company shall provide notice of the issuance of special instruction materials via Flight Crew Information File (FCIF) or other communications methods to be designated by the Company, and pilots shall be given a deadline, but not less than 30 days, to review/accomplish the materials. Failure to complete that material shall result in unpaid removal from any activities until completion of the material. The Company shall provide a VIPS notification to all pilots who have not completed such training at least 5 days prior to the deadline.
How long was that EFB DVD?

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Old 04-25-2007 | 04:17 AM
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I just did my cmv 1 last week with the efb sim and have yet to see the efb sim in my pay. does anyone know if we are paid for that sim day?
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Old 04-25-2007 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Peripatetic
Is there a a "quid pro quo" mechanism for dropping reserve days based entirely on picking up a specific trip, i.e., I drop two reserve days if you give me an imaginary a.m. PWM turn, or something. . . A colleague made a remark alluding to this but it was Ram dumped in lieu of something slightly more important, like locating the vending machine.

No, it's two unrelated transactions. R day drop, and Trip specific makeup request.
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Old 04-25-2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fdxmd11fo
I just did my cmv 1 last week with the efb sim and have yet to see the efb sim in my pay. does anyone know if we are paid for that sim day?
Yes, but I'm pretty sure that you have to submit a crew pay request for it, as it isn't automated yet.
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Old 04-26-2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fdxmd11fo
I just did my cmv 1 last week with the efb sim and have yet to see the efb sim in my pay. does anyone know if we are paid for that sim day?
From today's Message Line:
It has come to our attention that the Company’s Crew Pay Data department is not currently receiving notification from the Training Department when a crewmember completes the course code “FI11EFB” for the Electronic Flight Bag Simulator Training. Therefore, if you have attended this course it is imperative that you submit a pay log for 4+30 credit hours. At this time, the Company is unable to provide us with an automation date for this being that their resources are currently engaged in the automation implementation schedule for the 2006 CBA.
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Old 04-27-2007 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
The only classroom training we have for recurrent is Recurrent Ground School. The company can require any open book test, CBT or home study in lieu of RGS. In lieu is like instead, not like in addition to. CBT in lieu of RGS is different than recurrent CBT. Are you saying that CBTs are home study and therefore required to be paid at 4:30? Its home study that gets the extra pay, not CBTs, which is addressed, pay wise, elsewhere.

Good luck, let us know how the grievance goes.
DT said pretty much what you said...
No grievance gonna come from this one.
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Old 04-27-2007 | 05:35 AM
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Was there a pay event for watching the EFB video and signing off the course? Is this the event that was addressed in the union email?
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Old 04-27-2007 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by A300_Driver
DT said pretty much what you said...
No grievance gonna come from this one.
At least you're looking in the contract and asking querstions!
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