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aviatorhi 03-30-2019 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville (Post 2792772)
Nailed it!
You guys still don't get "it". Numpties.

FLYMIA 03-30-2019 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 2792533)
Plus, you will probably get to fly with street captains if you don’t meet the PIC requirements . The last upgrade went to a pilot with 5 1/2 months on property. ��.

A street hire captain will make approximately $1600 x 3 months training pay and then $116.98 x 50 hour first year guarantee That’s a little over $57k in the first year (not including the little bit of perdiem you might be able to pocket).
Is this honestly what the pay is?! Embellishing or being serious? If it is that's astounding. How do you guys operate at that pay? I'm on a CRJ and make just a tad over $100K and work about half the month. I'm not trying sound facetious at all honestly. If thats really the pay I'm dumbfounded how those aircraft move at all. I'm pretty shocked really. I take it no one, NO ONE, is showing up to class for this. If I were offered a job and they told me that was the pay I think I'd have a good laugh and then say, no really whats the pay? Edited because I also want to add, you gentlemen/Ladies deserve much better. Best of luck.

brownie 03-30-2019 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by FLYMIA (Post 2793244)
Is this honestly what the pay is?! Embellishing or being serious? If it is that's astounding. How do you guys operate at that pay? I'm on a CRJ and make just a tad over $100K and work about half the month. I'm not trying sound facetious at all honestly. If thats really the pay I'm dumbfounded how those aircraft move at all. I'm pretty shocked really. I take it no one, NO ONE, is showing up to class for this. If I were offered a job and they told me that was the pay I think I'd have a good laugh and then say, no really whats the pay? Edited because I also want to add, you gentlemen/Ladies deserve much better. Best of luck.
Nobody deserves anything in life and is what you negotiate and knowing ones self worth.

Birdsmash 03-30-2019 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by FLYMIA (Post 2793244)
Is this honestly what the pay is?! Embellishing or being serious? If it is that's astounding. How do you guys operate at that pay? I'm on a CRJ and make just a tad over $100K and work about half the month. I'm not trying sound facetious at all honestly. If thats really the pay I'm dumbfounded how those aircraft move at all. I'm pretty shocked really. I take it no one, NO ONE, is showing up to class for this. If I were offered a job and they told me that was the pay I think I'd have a good laugh and then say, no really whats the pay? Edited because I also want to add, you gentlemen/Ladies deserve much better. Best of luck.
No embellishing. That is what the Southern LOA/Atlas CBA pays a new hire 737 captain. But hey, a second year 737 captain will make approximately $89k ($120.49/hr x 62 x 12). That’s the sad, sad truth.

Jurassic Jet 03-30-2019 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 2793306)
But hey, a second year 737 captain will make approximately $89k ($120.49/hr x 62 x 12). That’s the sad, sad truth.
Oh but shiiiiiiiiiiiiny jet!!!! If only the ATI guys would share the Amazon pilot bag tags!

JonnyKnoxville 03-30-2019 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2793223)
You guys still don't get "it". Numpties.
Why don't you do us all a favor and grace us with your expert opinion? :rolleyes:

NoJoy 03-30-2019 09:57 PM
Actually wouldn’t surprise me if they did fill the seats initially. Atlas has hired quite a few pilots lately with no Turbine PIC time. And upgrades in the 767 and 747 have slowed down.
So for those individuals who want/need the PIC time, the 737 might be for them. It’s either that or go to Mesa ;)

Groundpointfife 03-31-2019 05:46 AM
Originally Posted by NoJoy (Post 2793386)
Actually wouldn’t surprise me if they did fill the seats initially. Atlas has hired quite a few pilots lately with no Turbine PIC time. And upgrades in the 767 and 747 have slowed down.
So for those individuals who want/need the PIC time, the 737 might be for them. It’s either that or go to Mesa ;)
The problem I see with that logic is how you get pilots from one seniority list to another. As of now Atlas and Southern are not on one list.

I could see direct entry CA on the 737, but without seniority list integration they'll have a hard time moving pilots from the 767 and 747 over to the 737.

JackStraw 03-31-2019 05:49 AM
Originally Posted by Groundpointfife (Post 2793450)
The problem I see with that logic is how you get pilots from one seniority list to another. As of now Atlas and Southern are not on one list.

I could see direct entry CA on the 737, but without seniority list integration they'll have a hard time moving pilots from the 767 and 747 over to the 737.
Direct Entry Captain into a 737 for $50,000 a year? Oh yeah there’s no doubt Atlas will bend some more metal.

Groundpointfife 03-31-2019 08:14 AM
Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2793452)
Direct Entry Captain into a 737 for $50,000 a year? Oh yeah there’s no doubt Atlas will bend some more metal.
Do you think they care?


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