Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2795356)

Same at atlas... might as well change our callsign to yiant.

Originally Posted by Groundpointfife (Post 2795586)

Aerolineas Atlas?

Originally Posted by FLYMIA (Post 2793244)

Is this honestly what the pay is?! Embellishing or being serious? If it is that's astounding. How do you guys operate at that pay? I'm on a CRJ and make just a tad over $100K and work about half the month. I'm not trying sound facetious at all honestly. If thats really the pay I'm dumbfounded how those aircraft move at all. I'm pretty shocked really. I take it no one, NO ONE, is showing up to class for this. If I were offered a job and they told me that was the pay I think I'd have a good laugh and then say, no really whats the pay? Edited because I also want to add, you gentlemen/Ladies deserve much better. Best of luck.

Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2794855)

I think you've entirely missed the point that some of us enjoy the tradeoffs of ACMI flying to the point that we don't want to be burdened with the NB hub-hub turns or sitting thru a sort and are willing to horsetrade to keep the lives we have.

I can't think of many people where I am now who would willingly make the trade for "big 3" pay if it meant losing the type of schedules we get. Insinuating that we're all underpaid unless we're following "big 3" or FedEx type rules is ludicrous.

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2795298)

Yet they still are training new hires.....same at ABX. For some the grass is always greener.

Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2795815)

Atlas is not filling classes on the 747, 767 or 737. I'm not sure about the 777...there are VERY few of those airframes operating, so they don't need many crew.

Originally Posted by dogo (Post 2795917)

ABX has 7 idle 767-2. Plenty of spares due to no business. Management touts an amazing on time performance with DHL/Amazon. #ABXweakmanagement.

Originally Posted by EndOfTimes (Post 2795645)

My limited experience with our new hire Hispanic pilots at ABX has been quite different. The ones I have worked with have been pretty damned good. I don’t see any less ability or competency with them than with the young millennial RJ guys we have hired. In fact, one of the older Puerto Rican guys I have flown with could move to the left seat tomorrow and do a fine job, he’s got a solid background.