Busboy

This union?

What? Would we have elected different leadership, if we were not part of this union?

Don't blame this union. It's not my fault.

Boom Boom

Amen.. I mostly lurk but I have called my rep... YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!

FreightDawgyDog

"Don't blame this union. It's not my fault."

Go easy Busboy. Don't you think he/we have a reason for feeling disenfranchised here? The leadership is choosing to go completely against it's membership and allowing us no say on the matter. I can see why anyone would feel like calling it "this" union.

Busboy

My point is that, we should not be blaming this union...We should be blaming our leadership. We are the union. DW, is not the union. Our MEC is not the union.

I guess in one sense, we can blame ourselves. We elected the LEC reps. Those of us that vote.

Flying Boxes

If FDX Alpa wants to advocate retroacitve rights....then shouldn't they also fight for right of return for retired guys?! It's just luck that an over 60 guy here has a FE job! What about all those AA, Delta, NW, UAL,.... guys that "paid dues" all those years and "fought for contracts" that current pilots benifit from! The only difference with them is they don't have 3 person cockpits! It was the SAME LAW that put them on the street! The "Principle" applies, they LOST there Seniority number because of the SAME LAW!

How would this go over with other MEC's?

FlybyKnite

I forgot to ask my block rep if they were going to fight for the retired guys whose status had also permanently changed but decided not to go to the back seat. I predict the answer is NO-- because they no longer have a seniority number and rights which need to be protected but who are still on the company payroll per se.

Falconjet

We need to get a movement going for Right Seat Only, as Huck has mentioned in the past. I wrote that in two places in the online poll, anybody who hasn't taken the poll or included their opinion on that should take the time to do so.

I don't think for a minute our MEC will fight for that, and I doubt the BRP guys will either, and that will be the proof in the pudding that ALPA has failed in its obligation to represent the majority.

I'm going to have to see if I can find a vendor to produce a Right Seat Only lanyard for those of us who are tired of taking it up the arse from ALPA and their cronies over at the APAAD.

FJ

Albief15

Dudes...if we want to send a signal we aren't satisfied, there are a ton of guys besides DW who can lead our MEC. He ain't a God. He's got experience, but if that expereince is working against the desires of 4000 guys then we need to find another guy.

I'm not anti-ALPA. I'm certainly not anti union. However--I am against anyone who won't listen to their constitutents. Give me info--don't tell me "what's best for me..."

Who wants to start the recall? I honestly think it can be forced if everyone is as irritated as I think they are.

Age 60--well...if we gotta. Retroactivety? Up yours. I'll be we can find at least ONE sharp, qualified, team player who would take that position to our MEC.

FYI...I join the walking wounded next week for back surgery, the sequel. I cannot go to MEM to vote but I can certainly email with the best of them...

Gunter

ALPA leadership will twist your words. They will say you support over 60 guys returning to a higher seat. If a higher seat is o.k., then CA will be o.k.

I recommend saying they shouldn't go back to CA or FO. Since the retired guys can't come back, the SO's should get back up front.

HazCan

You're not and it makes me sad. They are going to ruin the unity we had over this bull**** and then the company is going to run roughshod over the top of us while we are busy circle jerking over this.

Hang on....