Originally Posted by Jetjok

Jolly, you really do need to read entire posts before commenting. It's only "fair." There are a number of guys who are both older and junior, both at the same time, but I guess that if they're senior to you, than that's all that counts. As well, I don't play golf. It's too exacting (and slow) for me. I'm into racquet sports, in a very big way.

I'm sorry that you just don't get it, but I'd be willing to bet that when you're approaching retirement, you will. And if, by chance, the rule does change, and guys who are approaching age 60 decide to stay on, what then? Will you still feel the way you do now? ... that they should just go away and play golf, or will it be different for them, because after all the rule has changed. If you feel that they should still just go away, I'd suggest that it's going to be a really loooooong, unhappy career for you. Maybe you should thing about changing your screen name to Eternally-Sad-F15. By the way, I think we've flown together over in Asia, when you were in the jet only a few months. But then again, I've been wrong before.

Originally Posted by JollyF15

Not trying to sling mud here JJ, and I won't have a lousy attitude over this thing. I don't like it, that's for sure. Yes it does effect me in a negative way, and a bunch of other pilots at my seniority in the same boat. I'm professional enough to keep this out of the cockpit, and for what it's worth I still have a smile on my face when I go to work. Life's too short to be p---ed off at the world.

But it's like I said, I just don't get why anyone would take a pass on the great retirement our contract provides at 60. I'll have 18 years here plus my 21 years in the AF and would like to retire early. Will I miss it? No, I really don't think so---there's too much life left to live and want to live it while I'm healthy. This is a very emotional issue for us all. I think the change is a really bad idea for all the reasons we've already been over. That being said, it's probably going to happen and I'll apparently have to suck it up and move on. Kinda sucks though.

Originally Posted by KnightFlyer

You're assuming that we (the vast majority of folks) will be able to stick to "the plan" and retire at 60 w/o losing the current pension formula. Will we have a 15% ding on the A plan since now we are "retiring 5 years early?" Will it be grandfathered? Will retiring at 60 provide the same benefit as it does now?

I'm not happy about career progression slowing, but changing my ability to get a full retirement at 60 is what really has me concerned. You can go to 65, but I want out at 60 with the current A plan formula.

Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r

Note every all of us have a Military retirement coming in or one to look forward too. Not all of us have or will have the FedEx Retirement Maxed out at 60........This will affect ALL of us negatively, not just YOU and the more junior guys.

There were 3 guys in My new hire class who were over 50 when they got hired here. When they reached 60 they only had 5-6 yeats worth of B fund money since we had recently got our 1st contract. They only had 9-10 years FedeX longevity, so they went to the back seat to keep getting another 2% per year...............wouldn't you do that?