Kalitta vs. Atlas
03-28-2024, 06:41 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Boeingthere
Any current details on this that can be shared?
03-29-2024, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
60% of your W2, capped at 10k/month. The benefit is imputed monthly, so the $10k/month is paid tax free, less any disability payments from the guv't.
03-30-2024, 08:34 AM
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The Hartford is underwriting the pilots LTD at Atlas. Unfortunately it is NOT paying out! There are cases where pilots that have been out for over 9 months without any benefit being paid. They make you file for social security benefits as well as any state benefits. In the meantime they withhold benefits and will not allow the crewmembers effected to deal with anyone who can make a decision. Expect foriegn call centers with customer service people who barely speak english that don't get back to you.
03-30-2024, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MastrsOfCaterin
The Hartford is underwriting the pilots LTD at Atlas. Unfortunately it is NOT paying out! There are cases where pilots that have been out for over 9 months without any benefit being paid. They make you file for social security benefits as well as any state benefits. In the meantime they withhold benefits and will not allow the crewmembers effected to deal with anyone who can make a decision. Expect foriegn call centers with customer service people who barely speak english that don't get back to you.
03-30-2024, 09:23 PM
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Everything is a waiting game and mirrors the government in many ways. Plenty of paperwork, proof required/medical assessments, etc., but retro pay back for waiting a few months is based upon your application dates with validation dates is key. Do not wait too long when filing and hopefully you have some sick days accrued prior to the event. Nothing required, just makes it easier so always do your computer based training early cuz ya never know when a few Benjamins helps 
*There was something out there about emergency funds - not a bad idea while you wait.
*There was something out there about emergency funds - not a bad idea while you wait.
03-30-2024, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by C17B74
Everything is a waiting game and mirrors the government in many ways. Plenty of paperwork, proof required/medical assessments, etc., but retro pay back for waiting a few months is based upon your application dates with validation dates is key. Do not wait too long when filing and hopefully you have some sick days accrued prior to the event. Nothing required, just makes it easier so always do your computer based training early cuz ya never know when a few Benjamins helps
*There was something out there about emergency funds - not a bad idea while you wait.
*There was something out there about emergency funds - not a bad idea while you wait.
Yes, they will make you apply for state disability and all that, and it will take a while to process those. But they will retro pay the months you missed when all that is done.
If a pilot doesn't have a Dave Ramsey-style 6 month emergency fund, now would be a good time to start saving for one, as we all are one trip and fall away from losing our jobs. Thankfully our LTD is now at a point where losing your medical is not financially destructive event.
03-30-2024, 09:46 PM
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Yeah, if I didn't make that clear. Unable to hold a 1st class med certificate is required proof. Agreed
*Those who undergo AME Assigned Special Issuance (AASI) understand what is required like myself. Just failing a fixable area may not entail the true inability to hold your license. There are limitations and if you have faced a grounding event aside from the obvious career killers the FAA is a hoop in itself. I am quite well versed on some ailments and suppression attempts that will keep someone out of the blue (sky). Just my observation/experience.
*Those who undergo AME Assigned Special Issuance (AASI) understand what is required like myself. Just failing a fixable area may not entail the true inability to hold your license. There are limitations and if you have faced a grounding event aside from the obvious career killers the FAA is a hoop in itself. I am quite well versed on some ailments and suppression attempts that will keep someone out of the blue (sky). Just my observation/experience.
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03-31-2024, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
And those pilots have got the money after jumping through the hoops. Yes they are paying. Stop the fear mongering.
04-01-2024, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MastrsOfCaterin
It's not fearmongering if its the truth. If crew members that had to fight for the benefits owed to them were incapacitated durng that period and had to rely on their spouse, They would have lost everything. The process needs to be improved going forward.
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