Also realize that the Euro is 1.30 +or- to the $ dollar.

E 3000 = $ 3900
E 10,000= $13,000 Yes it is expensive

 

don't you guys know i am in with the bigwigs!!!! ...this comes from a top level manager(a close friend) and my FO yesterday(an mec block rep) who verified it....should be coming out soon...

 

$42K/yr = $3500/month, but other wise, you are correct! In fact many would jump with out any of that!

DW put out at the hub turn mtg - $42K/yr, 2 yr committment min.

 

Still fairly short of covering typical expat flat rent of 8600 USD/month and school 20K+ per kid per year

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...277912/1/.html

 

Dog's Eye View of COLA in Europe, just got back from a month in Britain and HOLY CRAP IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!!! Waaaaayyy worse than I remember it being. Dollar vs Pound doesn't help either, but there is going to have to be some serious stuff in the LOA for it to be anywhere near attractive. As in we need the non-pilot package that was mentioned at the beginning of the thread to make it worth while.

How's 8 Bucks a gallon for gas sound!!

Luckily beer's still relatively cheap!!

TSD

 

Just adding my .02, and a little flame to the fire.
Is this a bad deal?? Well, if you read the earlier post with the guy getting $100,000 just for his kids ed than, yea it falls far short. Looking beyond the managers expat packages we (expect/demand) to be provided, what do other airline pilots in HKG and France earn and how does there total pay/perdeim/Work rules/retirement/medical match up to what we (will) get??
Agreed, a French pilot doesn't need expensive english schools for his kids, so that expence is a valid prememum to us, but your basic AUS or Britt working for Cathy Pacific, living in HKG will have the same needs and expences as a Fedex pilot living in HKG. Looking on another pilot website for details of pilot pay for europeans in France and Cathy's pay and benefits, but still haven't found the info need to (to my satisfaction) answer the question.
For the guy expecting to live in the same size home as he does in the USA and drive the same size car , I think you're expecting (hoping??) for something that is not only unabtainable but also unrealistic. If you intend to live in Hong Kong or Paris your going to have to expect to live no better than your Asian and European contemperaties. To expect much more is wishful thinking. That said, we should ensure that we do get atleast a package that can have us living on par with Cathy and Air France pilots, IMHO.

 

Oh, God. Common sense and reasonable expectations! Where do you get off throwing those into the mix? And what do you mean, I can't have a giant SUV and a 3000sf house?

 

Nope. You can live like the Euros in cramped surroundings, in an odd political environment and make less money.

Now doesn't that sound like fun.

But at least the company doesn't have to pay you anything extra, so you've got that going for you.

 

What motive would the company have to not call this payment a COLA?
Wouldn't it be tax free if it was a COLA? You would think that the company would want the money to go as far as it can towards making someone's QOL at an FDA less of a burden. If they don't call it a COLA, do they get to write it off differently? Does it come out of a different pot of money?

I realize that the union doesn't want it to be a COLA, because they won't get their piece of the pie. I also realize that if it is a COLA then it is not pensionable, but I would think that tax free would be the way to go for everyone (except ALPA).

Someone please enlighten me.

 

So what you mean is: it would be better to hear from Price Waterhouse before I vote then after I move?

Don't forget those guys trying to pad their high 5, any of them on the NC?