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Old 08-18-2007, 03:16 PM
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Could the managers sway the next contract vote, I mean it could pass by 51% instead of 54%. I assume they pay dues, they VOTE, right. If they go by DOH, I would be senior to Barr, so I could give a rats butt.
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:39 PM
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Most of us in "lower" management believe very little of what we hear from "upper" management. In fact, many of us look to the IPA for a dose of reality. Hopefully, the IPA will approach us regarding integration onto the line sooner rather than later
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:56 AM
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Not sure what the benefits are for either side in fighting for or against this. It is what it is and it will be what it will be.

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Old 08-22-2007, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSDISPATCHER View Post
Here we go again. You heard him...you pilots better give up while you still have a job! Don't you realize what you're risking????? If you keep this unruly behavior up you're likely to make Lekites start his period a little early!!!

When we organized there were 7 supervisors actively dispatching out of I think 58. Since the NMB decides class and craft (not the company or their lawyers) they were all given the choice to stay management or take a seniority number. 7 out of 7 took seniority numbers. So it basically went like this: TWU-- "We'll take all of the the supervisors who are dispatching since they fall under class and craft." UPS-- "Uhhhh, okay."

Man, what a fight!!! It's not the least bit surprising UPS has the arrogance to think their lawyers can overturn the NMB's class & craft rulings along with legal precedence set at this airline and many many others.
Ed, that is hilarious.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:28 PM
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Don't get me wrong. I now believe that flight qualified supervisors should have the right to vote for representation. I am just not sure how it will be accomplished.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:37 PM
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From IPNN today 08-23-2007. I wonder why they would need addresses and other contact information????

{MANAGEMENT PILOT CONTACT INFORMATION}
The IPA is asking all crewmembers to provide the names, addresses,
phone numbers and any other pertinent contact information they
might have for all UPS flight-qualified Management Pilots. The
Association is updating the Management Pilot list to track both
management emergency flying and management proficiency flying.
A link will soon be available on the IPA website to log the contact
information.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cashcow View Post
From IPNN today 08-23-2007. I wonder why they would need addresses and other contact information????
I was wondering the same thing cashcow.

Things that make ya go hmmmmmm.....
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy View Post
I was wondering the same thing cashcow.

Things that make ya go hmmmmmm.....
Kind of what I was thinking. Hmmmmmm. Looks like voting cards will be soon to follow.
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let me get this right, our union, the IT group and EB sends out a daily requesting from line crewmembers contact info of mgt supervisors? really, come on!


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Originally Posted by GEOFFREY View Post
Don't get me wrong. I now believe that flight qualified supervisors should have the right to vote for representation. I am just not sure how it will be accomplished.
I am curious as to why you have changed your mind?
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