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Old 08-11-2007 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by a300fr8dog

What will be just as interesting is if they decide to "merge" the current problematic excess with the next MOAB. Either way, the next few weeks should be interesting.

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Is there any reason why the excess bid and the MOAB couldn't be combined? Are there any Pros or Cons to combining them?
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Old 08-12-2007 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Intlpilot
HKG Capt's = SFS Capts and SFS F/O's

HKG F/O's = SFS F/O's and 72 S/O's, no new hires needed

CDG Capt's = 1/3 wide body capts, the rest airbus guys, maybe a couple
72 Capt's

CDG F/O's = boeing F/O's and S/O's

My bet is no new hires required to fill these spots. . . If 68% voted for. . there are plenty of people thinking about bidding it. . .

Then again . . I could be wrong


Int'l, As a SFS Captain, I will not be bidding HKG. Although I wanted to, that option was taken away with the LOA. I would've been better off with our current contract. To those that voted yes to help out the guys who did want to go...thanks. There will be one or two SFS Captains who will take it. I'm sure the Captain who already lives and owns a home there will. A couple others have homes and families in Asia. Perhaps they will. That's it. As for the F/O's going over as Captains, that's more plausible. Except of course, those with children.

You seem to imply that because 68% voted for the LOA that there are quite a few thinking about bidding it. I disagree. Almost everyone that I heard that was voting for, were doing so for the benefit of those that did bid it. You know $2700 was better than nothing. Many wanted that added "scope protection" Well, for those thinking about it, do your research(our NC certainly didn't), and bid accordingly. I've certainly enjoyed the flying here in SFS. I look forward to going home.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Int'l, As a SFS Captain, I will not be bidding HKG. Although I wanted to, that option was taken away with the LOA. I would've been better off with our current contract. To those that voted yes to help out the guys who did want to go...thanks. There will be one or two SFS Captains who will take it. I'm sure the Captain who already lives and owns a home there will. A couple others have homes and families in Asia. Perhaps they will. That's it. As for the F/O's going over as Captains, that's more plausible. Except of course, those with children.

You seem to imply that because 68% voted for the LOA that there are quite a few thinking about bidding it. I disagree. Almost everyone that I heard that was voting for, were doing so for the benefit of those that did bid it. You know $2700 was better than nothing. Many wanted that added "scope protection" Well, for those thinking about it, do your research(our NC certainly didn't), and bid accordingly. I've certainly enjoyed the flying here in SFS. I look forward to going home.
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First, I voted NO, but doesn't the LOA allow you to choose the original CBA FDA package ? I thought that was the the choice of the pilot ? Just wondering.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
Underdog,

First, I voted NO, but doesn't the LOA allow you to choose the original CBA FDA package ? I thought that was the the choice of the pilot ? Just wondering.
I think he and several others don't like the tax equalization consequences that are now imposed under both options. There are several threads on here that discuss why it isn't such a good deal in HKG with a 17% tax rate and a pretty high US housing tax exclusion.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
I think he and several others don't like the tax equalization consequences that are now imposed under both options. There are several threads on here that discuss why it isn't such a good deal in HKG with a 17% tax rate and a pretty high US housing tax exclusion.
that makes sense ! thanks
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Old 08-12-2007 | 08:09 AM
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We also gave up the, up to $20,000, FDA bonus from the CBA sec. 6 option.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 08:33 AM
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If the pilots who bid CDG use "buying power" (Euro conversion, 20% VAT, tuition) as thier decision point, you'll see only NB SO's without school aged children bid 757 CAP, Any one else will take a substantial pay cut. New hires will fill the FO slots. Unknown for Hong Kong.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Int'l, As a SFS Captain, I will not be bidding HKG. Although I wanted to, that option was taken away with the LOA. I would've been better off with our current contract. To those that voted yes to help out the guys who did want to go...thanks. There will be one or two SFS Captains who will take it. I'm sure the Captain who already lives and owns a home there will. A couple others have homes and families in Asia. Perhaps they will. That's it. As for the F/O's going over as Captains, that's more plausible. Except of course, those with children.
Is he senior enough to hold STV's? Seems to me the first two years would pay more with per diem and without the tax equalization.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
We also gave up the, up to $20,000, FDA bonus from the CBA sec. 6 option.
Has anyone actually been paid that sect. 6E1e bonus since the initial opening of SFS? Reading through that section makes it sound pretty much optional for the company to pay it. Kinda like a bribe.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
Has anyone actually been paid that sect. 6E1e bonus since the initial opening of SFS? Reading through that section makes it sound pretty much optional for the company to pay it. Kinda like a bribe.

Must not be enough "over 53" guys coming back to make it worth the MEC's time.
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