Who is going where?
08-12-2007 | 11:03 AM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 0
From: leaning to the left
However, I would think they would have had to bribe a few to get to these FDAs. But, its water under the bridge. It's certainly irrelevant for these FDAs.
Maybe the SFS(Sioux Falls?) folks could answer that.
08-12-2007 | 11:21 AM
#32
Proponent of Hysteria
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 5
From: "Part of the problem." : JL
Yes, everyone here in SFS has been paid the 79 CH hours. It is NOT optional. The only people who were not paid it were new hires. They get screwed on that deal and only get a flat bonus of $2000.
08-12-2007 | 12:34 PM
#34
Organizational Learning
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,948
Likes: 0
From: Directly behind the combiner
.
08-12-2007 | 01:24 PM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,306
Likes: 0
From: 767 Cap
Thanks, Tony. I stand by my 1st post. The first part of that section reads, in part "a pilot, other than a pilot assigned to an FDA location as his first crew position, may be eligible for an FDA bonus as follows" That "may" means they don't have to pay it. As I understand it, it hasn't been paid since the original opening of SFS.
08-12-2007 | 02:08 PM
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,047
Likes: 0
From: 767 FO
e. In addition to the relocation allowance provided in Section 6.C.2., a pilot, other than a pilot assigned to an FDA location as his first crew position, may be eligible for an FDA bonus as follows:
Has the company established a time limit to receive the bonus? In SFS the minimum is 3 years.
Has the Union appealed the amount to the system board?
Do these sound like legitimate questions to see how much support someone at an FDA will get from the union?
i. The amount of the bonus, if any, shall be determined by the Company after consultation with the Association.
ii. In no case shall an FDA bonus exceed $20,000 for each Captain or $15,000 for each First and Second Officer.
iii.The Company may condition a pilot's eligibility to receive or retain the bonus on his activation at the FDA location and/or his service at the FDA location for a minimum period of time. In no case, however, shall the service requirement at any FDA exceed 4 years. The minimum period for the FDA in Subic Bay shall remain 3 years.
iv. If the Company and the Association disagree as to the amount of an FDA bonus, if any, the disagreement may be submitted for resolution to the System Board. The System Board shall lack jurisdiction to establish FDA bonuses in excess of the maximums established in Section 6.E.1.e.ii. (above).
ii. In no case shall an FDA bonus exceed $20,000 for each Captain or $15,000 for each First and Second Officer.
iii.The Company may condition a pilot's eligibility to receive or retain the bonus on his activation at the FDA location and/or his service at the FDA location for a minimum period of time. In no case, however, shall the service requirement at any FDA exceed 4 years. The minimum period for the FDA in Subic Bay shall remain 3 years.
iv. If the Company and the Association disagree as to the amount of an FDA bonus, if any, the disagreement may be submitted for resolution to the System Board. The System Board shall lack jurisdiction to establish FDA bonuses in excess of the maximums established in Section 6.E.1.e.ii. (above).
v. A pilot shall not be eligible for an additional FDA bonus as a result of a change of crew status within the same FDA location.
Has the company consulted with the association IAW i?Has the company established a time limit to receive the bonus? In SFS the minimum is 3 years.
Has the Union appealed the amount to the system board?
Do these sound like legitimate questions to see how much support someone at an FDA will get from the union?
Last edited by FDXLAG; 08-12-2007 at 02:15 PM.
08-12-2007 | 02:31 PM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,306
Likes: 0
From: 767 Cap
e. In addition to the relocation allowance provided in Section 6.C.2., a pilot, other than a pilot assigned to an FDA location as his first crew position, may be eligible for an FDA bonus as follows: [INDENT]i. The amount of the bonus, if any, shall be determined by the Company after consultation with the Association.
Doesn't appear as if the MEC has anything to say about it, other than what the amount is if the company pays it.
08-12-2007 | 02:40 PM
#40
Proponent of Hysteria
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 5
From: "Part of the problem." : JL
I stand corrected. I did not read the quoted section when I answered with the 79 CH remark.
Yes, everyone gets their 79 CH to come to SFS (except new hires), and everyone gets the 79 CH when they leave (either excessed out, and/or leaving own their own accord providing they have met the 3 year commitment).
And no, I don't know anyone who has been paid the "20 K / 15 K bonus". Maybe just the first round of guys who got here when the base first opened, I have not asked them about that.
I miss-thought, when I read the word "bonus" in the previous person's post, my mind went to the 79 credit hour payment. You are correct, this is not a bonus, but a mandatory contractual payment.
Last edited by skypine27; 08-12-2007 at 04:14 PM.
