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10-10-2007, 07:10 AM

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HerkDriver

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Why are the Airbus guys flying all of the DP's? Those things don't sit in open time more than a few hours before getting grabbed up...

10-10-2007, 07:51 AM

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There haven't been any Airbus DP's for awhile. Of course it's because the DP's were flown so much before that they can't be disputed anymore.

10-10-2007, 10:12 AM

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I don't know that its any kinder or more gentle, but Mempho is much bigger and therefor easier for them to hide. You just don't stand as good a chance of running into one of them in the AOC because there are so many of us in there.

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10-10-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetjok

The year I was based in ANC, very few guys flew DP. Those that did, were talked to. Memphis is a kinder, gentler, place. The corporate culture there is, and has always been, (in my opinion) to "live and let live", and it's in part due to this phenomenon, that guys who continue to fly these DP's, do so with impunity.

I understand, and agree. It just gets skewed due to MEM being such a larger base and you end up with more "anomolies", fringe, or whatever! that's all!

10-10-2007, 11:26 AM

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Why are they flown? One pilots disputed pairing is another pilots ability to be home for his anniversary, his kids championship game or whatever. Why are there so many disputed pairings anyway? Did we screw up the scheduling/work rules sections of the contract that bad? I think there should be no DPs at all. Either a trip is legal and compliant with the CBA or it's not. If its not, it should not be in the bidpack. If it is simply a difficult trip on the body, well that is what we do.

While we ***** and moan about the individual trees that are DPs, the forest is burning down around us. Sorry, thinking out loud again.

10-10-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onetime

While we ***** and moan about the individual trees that are DPs, the forest is burning down around us. Sorry, thinking out loud again.

DPs are just the first step. I constantly hear "if you don't like it, then volunteer at the Union to fix it." This is my way to volunteer for the Union. Bottom line is the DPs are not a secret. People picking them up are on their own agenda and you're not going to get any sympathy from me. Get home for a birthday or anniversary--give me a break! Drop the trip or work a different day.

10-10-2007, 12:07 PM

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Last Month a FO had over 140 hrs on his line. He was just adding money to his pocket, not being home for his family

10-10-2007, 12:14 PM

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Just check out the calendar of this Capt on this disputed pairing. The guy works every week.

https://pilot.fedex.com/vips-bin/vip...?MEM?27?9OCT07

10-10-2007, 12:27 PM

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I'm not suggesting they are a secret and I'm not looking for any sympathy, I don't pick them up. Of those who do pick them up, some do it for the pay, but most do so because it enhances their schedule in some way--like it or not. DPs are the first step? I appreciate the work that the SIG does, but we have been taking the first step for many, many years. We should fix the problem, not the symptoms of that problem which occur each month. Again they should not exist. Either they comply with what we voted in as a CBA and the FARs or they don't. If they don't comply they should never be built, however if you build it they will come and neither you nor I can change that.

10-10-2007, 12:34 PM

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Either they comply with what we voted in as a CBA and the FARs or they don't. If they don't comply they should never be built, however if you build it they will come and neither you nor I can change that.

May I remind you that the CBA also contains the disputed pairing "process". Yes we did vote these work rules in but part of the CBA is the SIG and PSIT. To say we must live with these pairings because they comply with the CBA and FARs is only part of the story. The "dispute process" also complies with the CBA that "we" voted in. The process doesn't work well when we have independent contractors trying to enhance their bottom line.