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Old 10-09-2007 | 06:41 AM
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Can anyone help me out and list the MD-11 disputed pairings for this month? I'm having a hard time getting on the union website. or let me know how to look them up elsewhere... thanks..

I've been home on vacation with our 5th child and need to fly before a sim at the end of the month...
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Old 10-09-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Pairing #134 is a one-time only pairing which is being disputed for an initial all-night flight to NRT followed by a continuous rolling body clock and multiple circadian shifts and a very short layover in ALA. This flight operates once on Oct. 10.


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#314 – This pairing is a 3-leg out-and-back that is scheduled to arrive at 0959 LBT, one minute before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW.


https://crewroom.alpa.org/FDX/Deskto...cumentID=40014
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Old 10-09-2007 | 12:04 PM
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If you register on the ALPA website and give them an email address, they will gift wrap the disputed pairings very nicely in emails to your email address a couple of times a month in the form of the sig letter, then they are the bottom of every message line. Thanks for coming here to get the info. Now it is time to take the next step and sign up on the ALPA website. If you need help....PM me and I will happy to help you through the process.

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Old 10-09-2007 | 07:08 PM
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#314 – This pairing is a 3-leg out-and-back that is scheduled to arrive at 0959 LBT, one minute before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW.

I wondered what happened to this disputed pairing (there are only 2 of them in MEM 11 CAP open time). I was NOT surprised to see that there are many of this trip still unassigned in f/o open time (good job f/o's!). I WAS surprised to see that at least 9 days of these trips are being flown by only 2 Capt's (Apparently for straight time? One of the a former manager!).

No wonder the SIG can't get rid of fatiguing and onerous trips like this!*?
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Old 10-09-2007 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I WAS surprised to see that at least 9 days of these trips are being flown by only 2 Capt's (Apparently for straight time? One of the a former manager!).

No wonder the SIG can't get rid of fatiguing and onerous trips like this!*?
Is that former manager the same Buck that could not make it through 757 training at Delta? He and the Pad got all of their MD time giving each other checks in the Sim. How sad he now has to make up his lost training manager pay by flying DPs. Must have got in over his head planning on sucking the tit for a long time. To Bad, So Sad, Mo Fo!
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Old 10-09-2007 | 09:23 PM
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[quote=Gunter;244561]MD-11 ANC


Pairing #134 is a one-time only pairing which is being disputed for an initial all-night flight to NRT followed by a continuous rolling body clock and multiple circadian shifts and a very short layover in ALA. This flight operates once on Oct. 10.




Congrats to ANC crews. This pairing did operate, but with BOTH crewmembers on reserve. All voluntary DP flyers take note, you suck balls.
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Old 10-09-2007 | 09:27 PM
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For the most part ANC and LAX pilots get it...and then there is MEM (need I say more )
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Old 10-10-2007 | 03:57 AM
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For the most part ANC and LAX pilots get it...and then there is MEM (need I say more )
But there are MORE guys in MEM that DON'T fly DPs than in LAX and ANC combined! Larger base = more selfish SOBs. If those bases were larger, I bet that they might not seem so differently than MEM.
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Old 10-10-2007 | 06:27 AM
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how bout we look at percentages? Seems fair.
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Old 10-10-2007 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
But there are MORE guys in MEM that DON'T fly DPs than in LAX and ANC combined! Larger base = more selfish SOBs. If those bases were larger, I bet that they might not seem so differently than MEM.
The year I was based in ANC, very few guys flew DP. Those that did, were talked to. Memphis is a kinder, gentler, place. The corporate culture there is, and has always been, (in my opinion) to "live and let live", and it's in part due to this phenomenon, that guys who continue to fly these DP's, do so with impunity.
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