fdx727pilot

1. Since August had the only DPs since O took office, and I only had to look up 1 pairing to find an instance of a Mgmt. pilot flying the disputed segment of a DP, as stated by O

2. And as a line guy who has been assigned DPs off of reserve, has no love for them, and appreciates a good manager after some of the losers who have occupied the office

3. While I would hardly consider Orlando a friend, I have met him on occasion, and know and respect some folks who really like him.

4. I know nothing about you except you're some dude on the Internet with an overinflated opinion of himself and a very adversarial and somewhat suspect take on everything put out by the company.

So, I will trust O for the time being and ignore you.

fecav8r

"Scott Jensen and I make a concerted effort to personally fly the Airbus DPs. If we cannot fly them, I have a management pilot fly them instead

Read the email. He said " make a concerted effort". Not we are going to make a concerted effort. And LCA's and SCA's are not management. Do an employee look up on any LCA and see if they are listed as management. He means ACP's, RCP's. Not checkairmen.......

hamfisted

4. I know nothing about you except you're some dude on the Internet with an overinflated opinion of himself and a very adversarial and somewhat suspect take on everything put out by the company.

Overinflated opinion of myself because I challenge a person who tells a bold-faced lie to 4800 pilots? Adverserial and suspect take on everything put out by the company? I'm glad you trust the company so much. If the kool-aid tastes good to you, keep drinking it without asking what they put in it. I personally expect an SCP to be honest when he communicates to me. If your twisting of the structure of his sentence allows you to arrive at an honest "concerted effort' to resolve DP issues, then more power to you. You somehow feel comfortable allowing somebody back in August flying a DP as ample research on whether any and all AC type trips are/were disputable. That, to me...with an overinflated opinion of myself...is simply unacceptable and I expect more from the PILOT responsible for representing me to senior management. But then again, my opinion of me is WAY over-inflated.

fdx727pilot

I read the e-mail, and in fact quoted it in previous posts. Not sure what you mean by your first 3 sentences. Granted, I did not look at every DP in Aug to see if O flew any. The first one I looked at, as I mentioned, had the operating crew replaced on the disputed portion by a standards crew. That said to me that the situation was, indeed, being checked out, and I did not look further. Since Aug, there have been no DPs on the Bus, so it would be difficult for O or Jensen to fly one. As for the sentence you put in bold, I was addressing all the other ACPs and RCPs that don't fly the A300. I specifically quoted O as writing "When the RCPs finish stabilizing our new organizational structure, you will start to see all of your management pilots out flying these pairings as well as interacting with our crews on a regular basis." That quote seems to me to be addressing a future situation. Perhaps I miscopied, misread, or wrongly interpreted what I saw in the e-mail. Of course, with your particular background, you may have more insight into flight management doubletalk.

And are you seriously telling me you do not consider Standards as part of Management?

Are they like the FAA, "Just here to Help!"?

2cylinderdriver

I am sorry but LCA's and SCA's are NOT management, most Check Airman would also balk at the insinuation ! They are however "pseudo MGT" when they are conducting duties on behalf of the FAA. The ones that think they are MGT are the one's to watch out for.

I personally only think 'O' is using this technique of MGT flying DP's because they have to fly some anyway and this way they may not have to bump trips.

Just my 2 cents, but I have "zero" confidence in his word until I see it on the jet flying a DP, and not a 1 day trip.

MEMA300

I think the problem was that the three legs were IMBEDDED. The way flight management guys flew them, they were not. If you are flight management and want to fly a disputed pairing to see what it is like, then fly the whole disputed pairing.

HerkDriver

One way to check O's sincerity...there are seven DP's for the Airbus in November:

Trips 47,99,139,158,262,480,564.

Plenty of chances to get out and see what is wrong with these pairings.

Question though...If O were to fly these trips, as opposed to a Reserve crew being assigned them, doesn't that in itself disrupt the whole DP process?

fdx727pilot

Fine, I'm totally screwed up, you guys are all correct, Orlando is a lying SOB, and as long as he is CP, we're totally FUBAR.

Everyone Happy?

MEMA300

WOW. Don't be so sensative. So we disagree with you. I dont think anybody said we we are totally FUBAR.

onetime

yep, unless other backdoor deals/agreements have been made.