Reaching Age 60
01-04-2008 | 12:30 PM
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Two hours of my life I'll never get back....
01-04-2008 | 02:42 PM
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I would like to see a list of current retired pilots by age only. This information should be updated annually. It would be a useful tool in determining how long a pilot should work based on life expectancy. Thanks, a concerned member wondering about my upgrade and quality of life
01-04-2008 | 06:31 PM
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I would like to see a list of current retired pilots by age only. This information should be updated annually. It would be a useful tool in determining how long a pilot should work based on life expectancy. Thanks, a concerned member wondering about my upgrade and quality of life
Of course, you could paw over past seniority lists, somehow get the names and phone numbers of the "old guys" and then while you're on layover, after 9 P.M. (the free minutes time for your cell phone provider), give them a call and ask if they're still alive. Then once a year you could publish said list.
01-04-2008 | 06:34 PM
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I would like to see a list of current retired pilots by age only. This information should be updated annually. It would be a useful tool in determining how long a pilot should work based on life expectancy. Thanks, a concerned member wondering about my upgrade and quality of life
ALPA National could spend some dollars to start actively tracking retirement age vs life expectancy for retired pilots.
The sample size should be large enough to be statistically significant, if done from a national perspective....and we could compare most recent retirees (those who had to retire at 60) with those who will work beyond 60 in the future.
It may take 10-15 yrs to finalize, but could prove very beneficial to future generations, who will need to make their own retirement s in 10-15 years....and beyond.
Let's not miss the opportunity to collect the data now.
01-04-2008 | 06:44 PM
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01-04-2008 | 07:21 PM
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What is incredulous to me are the guys that would "sue" the neighborhood, and still expect the previously chummy relations with those they negatively affected to resume, then complain that the neighbors don't like them anymore.
If it's just "business" to come back iaw the law...then it's "business". So be it, then expect a "just business" relationship. If what is important is comraderie and good time flying with the young guys......then they'll be disappointed. It is unreasonable to expect chummy relations with those that they negatively affected, and it is naive, foolish, and disingenious to claim otherwise.
If it's just "business" to come back iaw the law...then it's "business". So be it, then expect a "just business" relationship. If what is important is comraderie and good time flying with the young guys......then they'll be disappointed. It is unreasonable to expect chummy relations with those that they negatively affected, and it is naive, foolish, and disingenious to claim otherwise.
01-05-2008 | 04:02 AM
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01-05-2008 | 05:18 AM
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I just had a thought which, if implemented, would probably eliminate the "over 60" issue, while at the same time "eliminate" some really bad guys. Here's my thought:
We should re-enlist guys over 60 in the Armed Forces.
I am over 60 and the military thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. (You can't be older than 42 to join the military.)
They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.
For starters:
Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.
Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. "My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry!" We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some assho!e that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.
An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10 a.m.
Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, "I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-b!tch.
If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.
Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we like soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling. They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. I can hear the Drill Sgt. Now, "Get down and give me ... ER ... One." Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.
An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head. These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way.
Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowards who attacked us on September 11. The last thing an enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million p!ssed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them. If nothing else, put us on the border and we will have it secured the first night.
So, there you go. Just a thought.
We should re-enlist guys over 60 in the Armed Forces.
I am over 60 and the military thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. (You can't be older than 42 to join the military.)
They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.
For starters:
Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.
Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. "My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry!" We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some assho!e that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.
An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10 a.m.
Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, "I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-b!tch.
If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.
Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we like soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling. They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. I can hear the Drill Sgt. Now, "Get down and give me ... ER ... One." Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.
An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head. These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way.
Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowards who attacked us on September 11. The last thing an enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million p!ssed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them. If nothing else, put us on the border and we will have it secured the first night.
So, there you go. Just a thought.
What the hell did I just write?
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