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Old 04-24-2008 | 01:36 PM
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Any guesses on how they can award secondaries in the 727 CA seat when they are involuntarily excessing dudes?
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Old 04-24-2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
Laughing Jackal hung on....barely...

Who's commuting to HKG with me?
Me Me Me

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Old 04-24-2008 | 02:23 PM
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Albie,

You're not serious, are you??
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Old 04-24-2008 | 02:29 PM
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Lots of 727 CAs getting the boot to lower paying seats.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
Where? It is not on the website now. Off the "news" page, went to "General info" , "Postings", 08-02....nothing!

Hmmmm
I looked at the reposted Practice Bid results and might have an answer for the temporary absence. When I first looked at the results, there were no awards for the 727. Now there are excess and secondary awards in all 3 seats. Looks like even with a day to work on it, someone goofed up the publishing of the Bid Results.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Lots of 727 CAs getting the boot to lower paying seats.
Yeah, I count around 35 going to MEM WB right seats.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 03:05 PM
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The 35 excessed 72CA should consider bidding 30CA in HKG to get passover pay. If that doesn't work and company threatens to send them to HKG, they can refuse to sign the LOA letter and get locked in their current seat (72CA?)...SG
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Old 04-24-2008 | 03:05 PM
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Could someone give me bid 101 - please.

I'm like a pig looking at a wrist-watch with some of this.

For instance: If an MD-11 F/O was the last guy on the list in MEM before this bid thing started.
1- Is it a given he will be bumped off the MD in MEM based on all the guys coming off the -10?
2 - If so, how does he know where he ends up? Is it reflected in the posting or do you have to do the math yourself based on new awards into the seat and subtract the junior folks off the bottom of the list as required?
3 - Will there have to be another bid to place those who get excessed.

Thanks.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Could someone give me bid 101 - please.

I'm like a pig looking at a wrist-watch with some of this.

For instance: If an MD-11 F/O was the last guy on the list in MEM before this bid thing started.
1- Is it a given he will be bumped off the MD in MEM based on all the guys coming off the -10?
2 - If so, how does he know where he ends up? Is it reflected in the posting or do you have to do the math yourself based on new awards into the seat and subtract the junior folks off the bottom of the list as required?
3 - Will there have to be another bid to place those who get excessed.

Thanks.

Has anyone been excessed off of anything other than the -10 and -27?
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Old 04-24-2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DornierPilot
Albie,

You're not serious, are you??
Well...I can hold 35% at ANC...and fly around the world. I can hold LAX at 65%...and commute like a dog to get there. I can hold some nice lines NOW in the MD10/11 at MEM, but after upteen guys get excessed into it I'm not sure how good 65% at MEM will really be. You and I both like day/domestic, but there is only so much to go around. Years ago...30% in the 727 was SWEET! Now...I'm close to that and I cannot consistently hold R-24, a west coast line, or even a day line. Sometimes I can, sometimes I cannot--but the point is the bid back is shriniking.

I'd like to fly to ANC, CDG, VCP, and STN once in a while, when not going to SEA, DEN, LAX, and MCO. I got a feeling if I go to the MD11 I won't get getting much of what I want.

So--pony up--upgrade--and go make some money. Its a 14 hour flight from ATL to HKG, about $850 on Cathay. Two weeks gone, two weeks home, and a lot more money. Lots to stew on...but to answer your question...yeah...I'm serious. It is still a practice bid. And currently there are dudes junior to me there, which could have passover ramifications between now and training. I'm still researching and stewing. But I got a lot of contacts over there that know what the lay of the land, and it might be fun (for a while). Another point--another bid is around the corner, which will have some vacancies. If I bite off more than I can chew I could bid back stateside, and a 2 year seatlock to down-bid wouldn't really hurt--I'm more than 2 years away from a domestic upgrade anyway.

Not trying to share too much personal information, but there are a lot of opportunities in the this bid. The only guys I see get hurt on the junior captains on the 727 and DC-10 that cannot hold a similar seat. I'm sorry it is hurting them, but there are some winners coming out of this too.

And I won't take the FDA LOA package--section 6 is all I want. My family and horses will stay put.
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