vschip

While waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start, did some figuring on ANC dp 83/26Apr. The capt flew the whole pairing(on reserve, good on ya), while the f/o portion was divided up into 3 different pairings, ANC 2115/26Apr, the disputed part, assigned on reserve(good on ya), LAX 2064/26Apr, and ANC2116/29Apr. If the trip had flown as scheduled, the cost to the company would have been approx $15926(I assumed 10 yr wb capt and 5 yr wb f/o for pay). Here’s what it actually cost the company to get the flights filled:

ANC2115/26apr: pay $5367(40:19hrs), dh bank $4246 = $9613
LAX2064/26apr: pay $6353(47:45), dh bank $11036 = $17389
ANC2116/29apr: pay $5594(40:01), dh bank $6147 = $11741
Total $38743-9813(original capt’s pay) =$28930(not including some extra hotel rooms, override, and something else I’m sure I’m forgetting).

Now, you could argue that 2 of the f/o slots were assigned to reserve pilots, which is true, but there is still a dh cost to complete the flights of $21429. To a billion dollar company, it probably doesn’t seem like a whole lot of money, but with 15 dp’s in ANC in May, it could add up. If we could get guys not to fly these things(just like the ANC guys/gals are doing now), and the cost to the company goes up to fill them, maybe, just maybe we could give the psit some pull that would enable them to have some teeth in regards to improving our pairings.
ps, not an accounting major, so there are probably some math mistakes, feel free to point them out.

FDXer

It's not about the money....it's not about safety....it's not about fatigue....it's all about CONTROL!

Gunter

Oh, it is definitely about the money.

If this continues, change will occur. They just think they can outlast us.

Jetjok

I agree with FDXer, it's all about the control. It is NOT about the money, and they CAN outlast us.

PicklePausePull

Now this is the kind of work our "union" could be doing to enhance our quality of life while saving the company money! BZ to VSCHIP. Isn't this kind of effort potentially more rewarding than deciding on which baffoon to endorse for President?

Gunter

If this pairing, or even this type of pairing, continues to cost out more than it would if less optimized, it will be changed.

Let's not give up designating onerous pairings as DPs.

Lifizgud

Now if we could just get the MEM guys to act more like those in ANC...

MD11Fr8Dog

Yep, they've always been willing to spend 10 cents to keep from paying you 5 cents!

Huck

Reminds me of a flight I did Osaka - Memphis back during the summer of Love when we got our contract.

I was RFO # 2 and met the crew for the first time in the Swissotel lobby. As we got in the van, the captain (an Anchorage guy) said, "So when are you Memphis a##holes going to quit flying DP's?" I ignored him, while silently commending him on his stellar CRM.

We got to the plane, and when I did the walk-around I found a massive oil leak on the # 3 engine. We took a 4 hour delay while they fixed it - this before starting a 15-hour duty day.

Captain grumbled at me, "You know, you could have kept the oil leak to yourself...." Ahh... tell me again the superiority of the Anchorage breed....

md11phlyer

You guys aren't all *********s. You're just not very interesting.