FDX-open letter to age 60+
06-26-2008, 05:11 AM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,988
Just to play devil's advocate........
Consider what your initial response would be if you weren't at Fedex. Maybe you're at Champion or ATA and have to start all over. Or, you're brand new at Delta and worried about furlough.
I wonder if someone losing their job who'd love a spot at big D or the junior Delta guys who might get furloughed before FedElta are feeling so accepting. He's still taking advantage of the new retirement age at the expense of those junior to him (just not as many and at a different airline).
We don’t know the full story, maybe he’s trying to care for that sick parent, get a transplant or whatever. If it’s just a hobby because he’s not into golf or fishing, I’ll bet someone trying to feed their family might not feel like he should be there. Just a thought.
Consider what your initial response would be if you weren't at Fedex. Maybe you're at Champion or ATA and have to start all over. Or, you're brand new at Delta and worried about furlough.
I wonder if someone losing their job who'd love a spot at big D or the junior Delta guys who might get furloughed before FedElta are feeling so accepting. He's still taking advantage of the new retirement age at the expense of those junior to him (just not as many and at a different airline).
We don’t know the full story, maybe he’s trying to care for that sick parent, get a transplant or whatever. If it’s just a hobby because he’s not into golf or fishing, I’ll bet someone trying to feed their family might not feel like he should be there. Just a thought.
06-26-2008, 10:21 AM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 1559
Posts: 1,534
Well, he gets the pass benefits for his family. Doesn't really need to work, so he can drop trips and fly for cheap to spend those retirement dollars in exotic locales.
Someone pointed out earlier that he left because he hit 60 before the law changed and didn't want to go to the back.
No matter what job he took after that, it meant that someone else wasn't getting it, be it at Delta or Wal-Mart.
Someone pointed out earlier that he left because he hit 60 before the law changed and didn't want to go to the back.
No matter what job he took after that, it meant that someone else wasn't getting it, be it at Delta or Wal-Mart.
06-26-2008, 04:15 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Retired, again...
Posts: 608
Magnum, et al
Guys,
My original post was a plea for FedEx age 60+ folks to reconsider their choices based on the impact on the younguns' and their families. It was also a plea for understanding the possibility of some having to continue to work. Most of you took it as intended, however some did not.
The law changed a month after I retired from FedEx, but I had already decided to retire for all the reasons I stated above....Magnum, you most certainly would not have seen me on the line one day after 10Nov07. Like wise if some federal judge rules favorably on the lawsuits to allow "retro" for all folks who are OFF the property, let me assure you I will not be back......even for the Scooby snacks.
I applied to Delta , and they were foolish enough to offer me an interview. After busting my butt for a month to prepare, I was 1 of 6 who were interviewed and offered jobs out of 16 who tried. I jumped through the same hoops as every other swinging D--- there, and offer no apologies for accepting the job....the reasons are personal, and my own.
I got in the back of the line , square 1, and was on level ground with everyone who applied. If I took the job at Delta from someone else who wanted it, then so did everyone else in this industry who ever took a job.
On the other hand, if Delta furloughs this fall as many suspect, I will volunteer to be the 1st guy out the door.....not an empty promise. Most are not as fortunate as I am to have gone out with an intact A fund.
Lastly, on the selfish side , if I get to take my wife of 25 years with me to Rome, and stay in a great hotel on Delta's nickel.....good for me...I surely wasn't able to do that at FedEx.
Alibi over,
B
My original post was a plea for FedEx age 60+ folks to reconsider their choices based on the impact on the younguns' and their families. It was also a plea for understanding the possibility of some having to continue to work. Most of you took it as intended, however some did not.
The law changed a month after I retired from FedEx, but I had already decided to retire for all the reasons I stated above....Magnum, you most certainly would not have seen me on the line one day after 10Nov07. Like wise if some federal judge rules favorably on the lawsuits to allow "retro" for all folks who are OFF the property, let me assure you I will not be back......even for the Scooby snacks.
I applied to Delta , and they were foolish enough to offer me an interview. After busting my butt for a month to prepare, I was 1 of 6 who were interviewed and offered jobs out of 16 who tried. I jumped through the same hoops as every other swinging D--- there, and offer no apologies for accepting the job....the reasons are personal, and my own.
I got in the back of the line , square 1, and was on level ground with everyone who applied. If I took the job at Delta from someone else who wanted it, then so did everyone else in this industry who ever took a job.
On the other hand, if Delta furloughs this fall as many suspect, I will volunteer to be the 1st guy out the door.....not an empty promise. Most are not as fortunate as I am to have gone out with an intact A fund.
Lastly, on the selfish side , if I get to take my wife of 25 years with me to Rome, and stay in a great hotel on Delta's nickel.....good for me...I surely wasn't able to do that at FedEx.
Alibi over,
B
06-26-2008, 04:23 PM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
That's a very classy things to do. I'm not at Delta but have many friends there - thanks on behalf of other junior guys IF the furloughs ever happen over there...
06-26-2008, 09:06 PM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 394
FedElta is just like a guy hired off the street. He competed just like everyone else. He isn't stealing a seat from anyone. He knew the age was going to be changing soon and could have VERY easily elected to go to the back seat of the DC-10 or the 72 (only God knows why anyone would want to do THAT) and wait to return to a window, BUT he "did the right thing" and decided to retire.
He is a class act. I just wish we had more like him.
He is a class act. I just wish we had more like him.
06-27-2008, 05:27 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 1,111
FedElta is just like a guy hired off the street. He competed just like everyone else. He isn't stealing a seat from anyone. He knew the age was going to be changing soon and could have VERY easily elected to go to the back seat of the DC-10 or the 72 (only God knows why anyone would want to do THAT) and wait to return to a window, BUT he "did the right thing" and decided to retire.
He is a class act. I just wish we had more like him.
He is a class act. I just wish we had more like him.
I flew with an LAX CA on his last flight (water cannons and all) in early Nov. He said specifically if he thought the age change would happen in the next 2 yrs there's no way he'd retire. Well he retired and as soon as the age changed he was frantically calling the company to see if there was any way he could get back in.
Who knows this Delta guys intention? I don't think it's that pure though - you're either retired or your not. I suspect he's not. You don't think he would have kept on working at Fedex - make the $240/yr and used all those extra earnings to fly his wife to Rome vice taking his chances at a non-rev seat? Man I wish I hadn't known all that.
06-27-2008, 07:10 AM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 356
Unfortunately, most of the over 60 crowd are like those really big fat dudes on Springer that eat so much they have to knock the walls down on their house and get a forklift to get them out of bed. It's just that these guys have just been provided with nuclear-shielded walls that won't allow the forklift to get at'em. Forklifts for all my friends!!!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
