FDX- Accepted Fare
#1
FDX- Accepted Fare
It looks like someone down at ALPA is trying to make something happen on the unilateral changes FDX has implemented with accepted fares. I know there have been threads on this before, let's step up to the plate and inundate Contract Enforcement with the documentation they need to fight this thing !
"We are aware of a growing problem with FOX and accepted fares and how this affects a pilot's deviation bank. There appears to be an increase in instances where corporate travel is unable to ticket the crew member with the VIPS accepted fare. In order to best address the issue, we are requesting documentation from crew members.
Please provide copies of past travel/expense claims where the actual ticketed fare was higher than the published VIPS accepted fare. Additionally, we request crew members to provide documentation of claims that were approved by crew travel audit allowing the higher ticketed fare for a crewmember's personal deviation bank. Any examples of the above will do, both from the newer electronic FOX reports and for those that are extremely organized in record keeping, older paper travel claims. If you can assist us, please forward your information to contract enforcement."
"We are aware of a growing problem with FOX and accepted fares and how this affects a pilot's deviation bank. There appears to be an increase in instances where corporate travel is unable to ticket the crew member with the VIPS accepted fare. In order to best address the issue, we are requesting documentation from crew members.
Please provide copies of past travel/expense claims where the actual ticketed fare was higher than the published VIPS accepted fare. Additionally, we request crew members to provide documentation of claims that were approved by crew travel audit allowing the higher ticketed fare for a crewmember's personal deviation bank. Any examples of the above will do, both from the newer electronic FOX reports and for those that are extremely organized in record keeping, older paper travel claims. If you can assist us, please forward your information to contract enforcement."
#2
It's unfortunate that once again the burden of proof is on us. We all know what the accepted practice was for years until one day someone in the company woke up and decided to change it.
I rode this one hard about a year ago and there are threads on here that I started and/or contributed to. I also gave all the info I had, mainly emails, (never kept any paper copies or copies of the electronic expense reporting system just prior to FOX after they were closed) to Contract Enforcement but not much happened. Bigger fish to fry.
I'm glad to see renewed interest in this topic but unfortunately I don't have any documentation to provide of the many, many times I was able to submit the Corp. travel email with my expense report and get the accepted fare raised based on the increased fare that Corp. travel had to pay. Many on SIBA a few years ago when we had the Delta contract and accepted fares were ridiculously low, are quite familiar with the process. The company has all the data on their computers but once again we have to prove it exists.
I also just noticed today when I went and looked at my old FOX reports that go back to 09/2007 that the few expense reports in 07 that accepted fares were adjusted higher ,when I provided input, have been corrected back to the accepted fare way after the fact. The expense reports were closed and settled using the higher submitted fare as the accepted fare but now indicate they were corrected? A couple are still in there that may have slipped through the cracks but those were previously submitted to Contract Enforcement.
I rode this one hard about a year ago and there are threads on here that I started and/or contributed to. I also gave all the info I had, mainly emails, (never kept any paper copies or copies of the electronic expense reporting system just prior to FOX after they were closed) to Contract Enforcement but not much happened. Bigger fish to fry.
I'm glad to see renewed interest in this topic but unfortunately I don't have any documentation to provide of the many, many times I was able to submit the Corp. travel email with my expense report and get the accepted fare raised based on the increased fare that Corp. travel had to pay. Many on SIBA a few years ago when we had the Delta contract and accepted fares were ridiculously low, are quite familiar with the process. The company has all the data on their computers but once again we have to prove it exists.
I also just noticed today when I went and looked at my old FOX reports that go back to 09/2007 that the few expense reports in 07 that accepted fares were adjusted higher ,when I provided input, have been corrected back to the accepted fare way after the fact. The expense reports were closed and settled using the higher submitted fare as the accepted fare but now indicate they were corrected? A couple are still in there that may have slipped through the cracks but those were previously submitted to Contract Enforcement.
Last edited by machz990; 11-06-2008 at 05:16 PM.
#3
reposted from http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...-question.html
I know of more than one instance where guys have gotten hosed by this.
None of the guys I know took it in the shorts too badly, but there's real potential to screw yourself on some of the transoceanic deadheads.
What I didn't ask them was whether they printed out or did a screen capture of the initially quoted accepted fare to submit with the expense report, or to show to the ACP later. Anyone tried this?
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P.S. I refuse to believe some of you type A MFers don't still have that data readily available from, say, 1984.
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Carefull, If your scheduled ticket is more than your accepted fare the bank will reflect the higher fare untill you deviate. Then magically the bank reverts to the lower fare.
None of the guys I know took it in the shorts too badly, but there's real potential to screw yourself on some of the transoceanic deadheads.
What I didn't ask them was whether they printed out or did a screen capture of the initially quoted accepted fare to submit with the expense report, or to show to the ACP later. Anyone tried this?
__________________________________________________ _______________________________________________
P.S. I refuse to believe some of you type A MFers don't still have that data readily available from, say, 1984.
Last edited by FANS cripple; 11-06-2008 at 05:55 PM.
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