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Old 11-16-2008 | 06:25 AM
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Should be interesting to see the eventual would be bidpack for the 777.

Haven't taken an in depth look at it, but, seems like the FAA ruling is more restrictive than the "380" limitations in our contract.

So, Day 1 MEM-CAN for 16 hours, then min of 48 off (could be less w/specific rest requirements), then back. So, will the 48 off fit with the normal flight pattern or will it be greater.

If the company goes for a longer layover, opens up guys for field replacement should a dude get sick out in the field.

So, maybe the 777 will be a 6 or 7 day pairing with a mongo layover in the middle.

MEM-MEM for a sim, 24 hour off, 16 hour flight, 60-72 off, fly home
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Old 11-16-2008 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
Should be interesting to see the eventual would be bidpack for the 777.

Haven't taken an in depth look at it, but, seems like the FAA ruling is more restrictive than the "380" limitations in our contract.

So, Day 1 MEM-CAN for 16 hours, then min of 48 off (could be less w/specific rest requirements), then back. So, will the 48 off fit with the normal flight pattern or will it be greater.

If the company goes for a longer layover, opens up guys for field replacement should a dude get sick out in the field.

So, maybe the 777 will be a 6 or 7 day pairing with a mongo layover in the middle.

MEM-MEM for a sim, 24 hour off, 16 hour flight, 60-72 off, fly home
Good for us, I think. It'll help us at the negotiating table if the FAA has already mandated certain rules and perhaps it'll mean a need for new pilots. Also, there will be changes when we go to Flag carrier ops. Not sure of the details, but we'll need 30 hours off in seven days and some other rest periods are lengthened also. Could also create a need for more bodies. Hooray for us.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 09:16 AM
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...MEM-MEM for a sim, 24 hour off, 16 hour flight, 60-72 off, fly home
Gawd! All that for 'massive' widebody pay? No thanks, FNT-IND is long enough.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 02:15 PM
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......and that mongo layover is going to be in the garden spot of Guanhgzhou, or I guess it could be Delhi....
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Old 11-16-2008 | 03:11 PM
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The 777 schedule will be goofed up until they break the plane in and break the system to handle the plane. The geezers will need the 48 hour layovers to rest up for the exterior walk around, so don't pound on them for that.

The real issue, as I see it, is if the planes will come from Boeing equipped with an automated external defibrillator or if they will have to apply for FAA approval to add this necessary piece of equipment?

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Old 11-16-2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Perm11FO
The 777 schedule will be goofed up until they break the plane in and break the system to handle the plane. The geezers will need the 48 hour layovers to rest up for the exterior walk around, so don't pound on them for that.
I've not been following the 777 issues closely, so it comes to me as a surprise that the 777 captain will do walkarounds at FedEx. I would have thought it'd fall on the young RFO pilot.

On a different note, I've been out in San Diego for the past 5 days and have decided to never go back to Connecticut. 75-80 degrees and bright sun, sure beats the crap out of 45 degrees and rain.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 03:37 PM
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What young RFO?? I believe he's assuming both seats will go very, very senior. We'll see.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 04:40 PM
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The defibs are going to be built into the shoulder straps. Just keep them on all the time and at your first head-bob -ZAP!!!
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Old 11-16-2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
On a different note, I've been out in San Diego for the past 5 days and have decided to never go back to Connecticut. 75-80 degrees and bright sun, sure beats the crap out of 45 degrees and rain.
Couldn't agree more JJ. I brought the fam out there a few weeks ago, and had the same opinion. The weather was superb, the palm trees were glorious, and the beach view was Southern California all-right. I even went surfing...altho I think the sport should be renamed "falling".

But hey, 45 and rain sounds OK if you're on a trip. Or if it's home-sweet-home...
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Old 11-16-2008 | 05:46 PM
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Socal...What a beautiful place....Too bad the people F_it all up!
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