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Old 02-07-2009, 06:00 AM   #1  
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I have a question for those who deviate often. If you have a deadhead that is under 5 hours block when scheduled, but over 5 hours block when you deviate, are you able to book it in first class? Thanks in advance!
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I have done that in the past without any problems.
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Old 02-07-2009, 07:18 AM   #3  
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Yes and the reverse is true. If it is scheduled over 5 and but deviate under 5 I have caught shazzile for trying to book 1st class.
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Have upgraded to first class many times in this situation (deviation leg over 5 hours). Never had a problem ... but don't tell anybody or PC and Capt. "O" will use it as their next cost saving measure and unilaterally take another benefit away
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Have upgraded to first class many times in this situation (deviation leg over 5 hours). Never had a problem ... but don't tell anybody or PC and Capt. "O" will use it as their next cost saving measure and unilaterally take another benefit away
You just told them! Right, PC!? Right, Capt "0"!?
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:16 AM   #6  
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It's perfectly legal to book your deviation flight in 1st class, if it qualifies.

CBA 8.C.3.a.ii Air travel expenses shall be limited to the accepted fare for coach class unless the deviation flight would qualify for a higher class of service under Section 8.A.4.b.

Of course, your bank remains the same, regardless of what your deviation flight qualifies for.
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You also can book first class on any length D/H if your combined duty time with an operational leg exceeds 11:30, or the combined block time of an operational trip and a D/H, exceeds 8 total block hours.

So, say you operate an ANC-MEM leg with 8 hrs of duty, sit in MEM for 3 hrs, and then get on a MEM-ATL 1 hr D/H for a total of 12 hrs from your initial report time in ANC until your land time in ATL, then you would qualify for a first class seat on the 1 hr D/H.

You would also qualify for first class in this example because the combined block time is over 8 hrs.

CBA 8.4.A
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours.

When you call Corp Travel to book the first class ticket, just tell them it qualifies under one of these contract provisions: they know about them and will book it if you ask them to.
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You just told them! Right, PC!? Right, Capt "0"!?
Don't you guys know that if you want to post something on this site, but you don't want the company to read it, then you must put it in (parenthesis).

(Just don't tell them I told you so.)
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b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours.

When you call Corp Travel to book the first class ticket, just tell them it qualifies under one of these contract provisions: they know about them and will book it if you ask them to.

As long as you didn't get a legal crew rest betwen operating flight and deadhead flight you can extend your duty day to exceed 11:30 and qualify for first class. I do that a lot by getting only 6 or 7 hours at the hotel. Never been questioned by corp travel or crew audit.
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As long as you didn't get a legal crew rest betwen operating flight and deadhead flight you can extend your duty day to exceed 11:30 and qualify for first class. I do that a lot by getting only 6 or 7 hours at the hotel. Never been questioned by corp travel or crew audit.
Ok,

I thought I knew most of the rules as a commuter....This is a good one to have in my back pocket....thanks!
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