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Old 06-11-2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
I'm sure you feel the same about Bill Gates. No credit for coming up with the idea, then founding FedEx or Microsoft. It was just destiny.
Oh please!

You may be enamored by the mythology of Frederick W. Smith, but not everybody else is.

He was born with a silver spoon firmly in mouth and had his daddy's and his uncle's money (over a hundred million in today's dollars) to start his company. (If my daddy had loaned me $100 million, I'll bet I'd have a big successful company too by now.) You FedEx pilots who earned your hours and worked your way up to earn a good salary have accomplished more than that bonehead ever would have without his daddy's cash.

The fact is that Fred Smith is one of the most anti-union CEOs in recent memory. He's been stepping on and taking advantage of hardworking, middle class Americans his entire professional life.

His latest antics show his true side and show that he will sink to any level to keep his money that he believes is his birthright. (Why let the little people have any, right Fred?)

He's a whiney crybaby who will have to start playing by the rules and will soon pay his workers a fair wage when they unionize.
Old 06-11-2009 | 02:29 PM
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Old 06-11-2009 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Cook
Oh please!

You may be enamored by the mythology of Frederick W. Smith, but not everybody else is.

He was born with a silver spoon firmly in mouth and had his daddy's and his uncle's money (over a hundred million in today's dollars) to start his company. (If my daddy had loaned me $100 million, I'll bet I'd have a big successful company too by now.) You FedEx pilots who earned your hours and worked your way up to earn a good salary have accomplished more than that bonehead ever would have without his daddy's cash.

The fact is that Fred Smith is one of the most anti-union CEOs in recent memory. He's been stepping on and taking advantage of hardworking, middle class Americans his entire professional life.

His latest antics show his true side and show that he will sink to any level to keep his money that he believes is his birthright. (Why let the little people have any, right Fred?)

He's a whiney crybaby who will have to start playing by the rules and will soon pay his workers a fair wage when they unionize.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 05:10 PM
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As I "volunteered" for our furlough prevention extortion (volunteer or else), I kept asking myself,
Why does a company that makes this much money need a bailout from its pilots?

I also wondered why a company that makes as much money as Fedex needs a bailout from its pilots as well.
Old 06-11-2009 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Dog
As I "volunteered" for our furlough prevention extortion (volunteer or else), I kept asking myself,
Why does a company that makes this much money need a bailout from its pilots?

I also wondered why a company that makes as much money as Fedex needs a bailout from its pilots as well.
If you're talking about how cheap we sold the FDAs, I agree. If you are talking about how our contract allows some hours to prevent furlough, I am not sure I agree since we are grieving current application. If you are talking about something to do with this thread you lost me snoop.
Old 06-11-2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
If you're talking about how cheap we sold the FDAs, I agree. If you are talking about how our contract allows some hours to prevent furlough, I am not sure I agree since we are grieving current application. If you are talking about something to do with this thread you lost me snoop.
Brownbailout says "Why does a company that makes this much money need a bailout from congress?" with a little counter below it. I just changed the wording to "...bailout from pilots" since that is what we are all doing - giving back money to our profitable companies. Unlike the passenger airlines that actually wait until they're losing money to screw their employees.
Old 06-11-2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Cook
Oh please!

You may be enamored by the mythology of Frederick W. Smith, but not everybody else is.

He was born with a silver spoon firmly in mouth and had his daddy's and his uncle's money (over a hundred million in today's dollars) to start his company. (If my daddy had loaned me $100 million, I'll bet I'd have a big successful company too by now.) You FedEx pilots who earned your hours and worked your way up to earn a good salary have accomplished more than that bonehead ever would have without his daddy's cash.

The fact is that Fred Smith is one of the most anti-union CEOs in recent memory. He's been stepping on and taking advantage of hardworking, middle class Americans his entire professional life.

His latest antics show his true side and show that he will sink to any level to keep his money that he believes is his birthright. (Why let the little people have any, right Fred?)

He's a whiney crybaby who will have to start playing by the rules and will soon pay his workers a fair wage when they unionize.
There are a lot of good folks at Purple and we seem to have a very respectable relationship with mutual issues and challenges. But I have to agree with the Capt.

Between Fred holding Boeing hostage and this attack on UPS saying that we need a bailout, it reminds me of my 4 year-old nephew, when we take his Bozo the Clown doll away.

If the roles were reversed does anyone think Uncle Fred would sit on the sideline. I don't mind him lobbying against the bill, even though its' passage would level the playing field, but to blame UPS is just scapegoating a company because of his insecurity of unions.

Put in other terms, if the drivers are being treated well, why would they ever unionize. If that's the case, Fred has nothing to worry about.

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If the bill isn't passed, UPS would like access into Vietnam and 80% of the USPS contract...Now that's not a bailout, that's a Bailout just for UPS.
Old 06-11-2009 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
There are a lot of good folks at Purple and we seem to have a very respectable relationship with mutual issues and challenges. But I have to agree with the Capt.

Between Fred holding Boeing hostage and this attack on UPS saying that we need a bailout, it reminds me of my 4 year-old nephew, when we take his Bozo the Clown doll away.

If the roles were reversed does anyone think Uncle Fred would sit on the sideline. I don't mind him lobbying against the bill, even though its' passage would level the playing field, but to blame UPS is just scapegoating a company because of his insecurity of unions.

Put in other terms, if the drivers are being treated well, why would they ever unionize. If that's the case, Fred has nothing to worry about.

FF
I'm not going to get on the bash Fred bandwagon, especially now that the Japanese "business is war" mentality is pretty much in vogue by neccessity. But at best, this "campaign" is a clumsy play on the whole "bailout" thing, which plays best on the room temperature IQ crowd (aka: Obama voters ), and is kind of played. AIG and the banks got handed billions of OUR tax dollars directly. This legislation has a rider attached that Fred hates and he's ****ed...I would be too. But at the end of the day it will be a waste of money...other than Teamsters, Fed Ex and UPS employees and their larger shareholders, nobody cares about this compared to all the other silliness in play.
Old 06-11-2009 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
I'm not going to get on the bash Fred bandwagon, especially now that the Japanese "business is war" mentality is pretty much in vogue by neccessity. But at best, this "campaign" is a clumsy play on the whole "bailout" thing, which plays best on the room temperature IQ crowd (aka: Obama voters , and is kind of played. AIG and the banks got handed billions of OUR tax dollars directly. This legislation has a rider attached that Fred hates and he's ****ed...I would be too. But at the end of the day it will be a waste of money...other than Teamsters, Fed Ex and UPS employees and their larger shareholders, nobody cares about this compared to all the other silliness in play.

Its a good thing they ban political crap on APC .... NOT !

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