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02-10-2010 | 08:35 AM
#111
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From: Kickin it "C"old School in AK
For the love of...
You two are about to make me vomit. Can you start another thread? We've got serious business happening here...
hmmmmm...... nonsense you say...... 
From FAA's Age 60 Rule Homepage
The ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) is a treaty association among sovereign nations (member States). As sovereigns, each member State (e.g., the U.S.) can make any rule for its own carriers and pilots - to apply world-wide. However, the ICAO treaty requires that a member State (i.e., the U.S.) may not impose a more restrictive rule than the ICAO standard on foreign carriers (and their pilots) operating in their respective national airspace.
The ICAO "age 60" standard is an enforceable limit of age 60 for PIC (pilots in command), but only a recommended maximum age 60 limit for co-pilots. These rules appear as paragrpahs 2.1.10.1 (captains) and 2.1.10.2 (co-pilots) in a document titled "Annex 1 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation." (Annex 1)
From FAA's Age 60 Rule Homepage
The ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) is a treaty association among sovereign nations (member States). As sovereigns, each member State (e.g., the U.S.) can make any rule for its own carriers and pilots - to apply world-wide. However, the ICAO treaty requires that a member State (i.e., the U.S.) may not impose a more restrictive rule than the ICAO standard on foreign carriers (and their pilots) operating in their respective national airspace.
The ICAO "age 60" standard is an enforceable limit of age 60 for PIC (pilots in command), but only a recommended maximum age 60 limit for co-pilots. These rules appear as paragrpahs 2.1.10.1 (captains) and 2.1.10.2 (co-pilots) in a document titled "Annex 1 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation." (Annex 1)
02-10-2010 | 09:26 AM
#112
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Just got the call from ANC. "We're trying to be creative and help in any way we can." What a professional operation... Thanks 
02-10-2010 | 09:28 AM
#113
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From: looking for a bridge to sleep under in ANC
I pretty much figured the open time ban would completely fall apart within a month or so......but wow, it's already started. I would look for our 10% here to be more like 28% (800/2819 - now where would that number come from???)
02-10-2010 | 09:34 AM
#114
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From: DC-8 756/767
Very sad in my book. I know all the facts are not in, but the trip was in opentime last night and it is now gone, and the Capt. has a PO next to his name, it don't look good. I really hope the union does something about this if this did occure. It is not a sick pickup or trade, but straight pick-up. I feel sorry for the FO that has to fly with this guy for the week!
02-10-2010 | 09:38 AM
#115
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From: MD 11 FO
Wouldn't a sick pickup also be considered a pickup?
02-10-2010 | 09:40 AM
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02-10-2010 | 09:48 AM
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Very sad in my book. I know all the facts are not in, but the trip was in opentime last night and it is now gone, and the Capt. has a PO next to his name, it don't look good. I really hope the union does something about this if this did occure. It is not a sick pickup or trade, but straight pick-up. I feel sorry for the FO that has to fly with this guy for the week!
02-10-2010 | 09:56 AM
#119
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From: DC-8 756/767
This is the first few days, believe it or not some pepole have lives that keep them from looking at the B&G or this site or even reading the IPNN, and it is entirely possible that this person did not recieve the message prior to the pickup. To throw up our hands and announce that it is a failure is premature as is attacking a fellow crewmember. Drivng any wedge for any reason is exactly what UPS management wants right now.
02-10-2010 | 09:59 AM
#120
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One of the ACPs: TM. And to be clear -- he was completely professional. He didn't write the script he was given and I don't shoot the messenger. I would loved to have asked him how 'they' justify 3/4 $B profit, reinstating manager bonuses, and concurrently laying off... but, what's the point? He just does what they tell him.
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