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Old 05-25-2010, 01:54 PM
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The only way I'd support M/U is a new bank category. A 4a2b bank that holds the exact amount each individual was below BLG for the duration of 4a2b. When flown, this bank should pay draft pay. This also prevents a windfall to those who didn't "give". Last I checked, the generally accepted premise was that 4a2b was intended for all of us to give equally to prevent furloughs.

They took the money from my check as a compulsory loan while they waited to see what the economy would do. Last time I checked, lenders charge interest.

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I won't accept that unless it is paid at draft pay for the seat I held during the majority of 4a2b, not the seat I'm currently occupying. That could be an administrative nut roll.
Show me the money.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:25 PM
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Waaah, waaah, waaaah....gime'me, gime'me, gime'me....booo f'in whooo

M/U hours/no M/U hours, draft pay, give me every penny I was shorted, blah blah blah. You are all pi$$in in the wind.

The company found a loophole, that WE (ALPA) left open for them to use, and we got royally screwed. Lesson learned, hire a professional lawyer (a team of them) to thoroughly scrub the next contract and close every potential loophole the company can use to their advantage without penalty.

I don't like 4A2b anymore than the next guy but the only person that will have the last say is the arbitrator. I pray that this person has some common sense, integrity and compassion for the common folk and sends a message to corrupt corporations that steal from their own employees to fill their pockets and pad the bottom line. But I'm not holding my breathe...
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:39 PM
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You may not be holding your breath but it seems like you went from mocking us to "pi$$in in the wind" with us in just a couple of paragraphs. That is if praying for common sense, integrity and compassion about corrupt, theiving corporations equates to our hopes that the answer to 4a2b is recouping lost pay.
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:11 PM
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You may not be holding your breath but it seems like you went from mocking us to "pi$$in in the wind" with us in just a couple of paragraphs. That is if praying for common sense, integrity and compassion about corrupt, theiving corporations equates to our hopes that the answer to 4a2b is recouping lost pay.
I just get tired of hearing guys pound their chest saying that they will take nothing less than (fill in the blank) and I think we should get all that. The fact is 4A2b affected everyone differently, mostly dependent upon your seniority, so getting a 4700 pilots to agree to a common resolution is moot at best.

I just don't want to see this situation implode on us right at a time when we need to be coming together, not bickering amongst one another.

I'm just saying.....
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:19 PM
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Isn't the discussion of what is acceptable or unacceptable a moot point? Am I missing something outside of the fact that the arbitrator has the final say and all parties involved have to accept the forthcoming decision?

I don't know....I have been up all night and am heading to bed.

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Old 05-25-2010, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by v2plus25 View Post
Congrats on FDX coming to their senses finally and getting back to normal. So by my count 6 to 8 months from now UPS will pull their head out outa their a** and recall the furloughees
PERFECT TIMING. FedEx sales can now show how they are getting their airline ready for peak and an improving economy.

Brown on the other hand ... furloughed 54 pilots on Sunday.

And in 6-8 months UPS airline management heads will still be buried in brown.


Good on the FedEx group. Have any openings in sales ???

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Old 05-25-2010, 05:30 PM
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I thought it was a mute point
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FedExBusBoy View Post
I thought it was a mute point
No.....it's a MOO point.

It's like a cow's opinion....it just doesn't matter.....so it's moo.

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I'm so pleased that my company has decided to stop stealing from its employees. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:11 PM
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I'm so pleased that my company has decided to stop stealing from its employees. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.
i know I'll never be able to say that ...

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