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Old 08-14-2006 | 05:56 AM
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Yeah, don't let someone's zip code fool you. Extra flying is being done across the board. I am flying with a calendar-hiding commuter- that I suspect has way too many blue lines streaking acorss his August calendar.

About f/o's flexing... some guys have very strong backgrounds with instructing by the time they get their job at Fedex, I think using them as flexes can be a good thing. Look at their overall career experience. But I realize some egos can't handle it. I recently met a jumpseater on one of my flights- he was upgrading to captain in the -11 and had just had his oral. They were AQP, so it was done by a flex. He asked me if I knew the guy- I did, and when he found out the guy was an /fo flex, he had a hissy fit. Pounded the counter, "I should have known! An f/o!" And bit(hed about how only a captain is qualified to do that training...... Gimme a break.
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Old 08-14-2006 | 06:57 AM
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my comment was in jest...but jeeez....was stirring the pot a little..getting a little bored on my 6th week off from vacation....heard that we agreed on 9% raise with same 9% retro and agency shop! anybody heard this????
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Old 08-14-2006 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
my comment was in jest...but jeeez....was stirring the pot a little..getting a little bored on my 6th week off from vacation....heard that we agreed on 9% raise with same 9% retro and agency shop! anybody heard this????
Tell us more.................
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Old 08-14-2006 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
my comment was in jest...but jeeez....was stirring the pot a little..getting a little bored on my 6th week off from vacation....heard that we agreed on 9% raise with same 9% retro and agency shop! anybody heard this????
I heard 8%, not sure on the retro!
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Old 08-14-2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by USNFDX

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I think Jack's deal with the F/O flexs' was that some Captains (let's just call it the 2% again) were taking issue with receiving instruction from some "junior F/O who was still in diapers while I was flyn' the mighty falcon yadie yadie...."
The problem with that picture is an insecure Captain. Nothing was done to address THAT problem.




In fact, throw in the issue of Professional Instructors, and tell me how they should rank.




Do you want the best instructors in the schoolhouse, or just the ones with a certain number of stripes?






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Old 08-14-2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark

... heard that we agreed on 9% raise with same 9% retro and agency shop! anybody heard this????

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog

I heard 8%, not sure on the retro!
I heard 9% and 7% Retro

Agency shop with a hitch - - all current losers get to remain losers.







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Old 08-14-2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
The problem with that picture is an insecure Captain. Nothing was done to address THAT problem.









Do you want the best instructors in the schoolhouse, or just the ones with a certain number of stripes?






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They don't want the best instructors they want the cheepest.The union gave them pay reductions,and work rule changes that should bring Pardrone a large MBO payout.
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Old 08-14-2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I heard 9% and 7% Retro

Agency shop with a hitch - - all current losers get to remain losers.







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With a 3 to 3.5% annual inflation rate and our contract being amendable for the last two years, a 9% raise would amount to a COLA for the last two years plus a 2% raise. With no compounding from an annual raise the actual amount is less.
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Old 08-23-2006 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I heard 9% and 7% Retro

Agency shop with a hitch - - all current losers get to remain losers.







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Hey, probably should start another thread, but I'm too lazy. If there was a 9% retro, how would you guys like to see that administered? On total earnings since the amendable date, on a seat and year formula, etc. Seems if you do it on a total compensation basis aren't you rewarding the bone heads that have been hring the last year or so. But if you don't, how do you base it?
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Old 08-23-2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Hey, probably should start another thread, but I'm too lazy. If there was a 9% retro, how would you guys like to see that administered? On total earnings since the amendable date, on a seat and year formula, etc. Seems if you do it on a total compensation basis aren't you rewarding the bone heads that have been hring the last year or so. But if you don't, how do you base it?
How about based on credit hours?
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