When will we see the FDX TA??
09-06-2006 | 05:13 PM
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Well, let's see. He stops paying dues today. It doesn't come out of the pay check until the 15th. We should see something about the TA on Friday, NLT Monday. Not much of threat there.
09-06-2006 | 05:13 PM
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Its been 5 or 6 days since ALPA's nego committee and FDX mgt agreed to the TA. Many details have been "leaked" but many more to be seen. I'm guessing the MEC has "bought off" on the TA or the details of that would have been "leaked" by now. Given that its got to be printed and mailed, I figure some time early next week when we get our copy of this agreement.
It could be available earlier via the web, possibly in pdf format. Question: Anyone know when we will see these documents??
Also, for the UPS lurkers, is your "contract" available to be seen via Internet and if so, where??
It could be available earlier via the web, possibly in pdf format. Question: Anyone know when we will see these documents??
Also, for the UPS lurkers, is your "contract" available to be seen via Internet and if so, where??
09-06-2006 | 05:20 PM
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Let's see ... from a non-ALPA 747 Captain making maybe $100/hr. You are right, that's awesome. And before I get flamed, I'm entitled to bash my own union
09-06-2006 | 05:55 PM
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Want to compare paychecks or retirement?
09-06-2006 | 06:01 PM
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I sent my block rep the following email today. I doubt it will light a fire under the process.
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Here's some input from a line pilot ... really glad to hear we actually have a TA! I have to assume the UPS TA put some serious pressure on negotiations! Yeah! That's really great news. I'll assume that the negotiating committee wouldn't have TA'd an agreement they didn't think we would ratify. This "could" be really great news.
That said, I'm a bit disappointed that I haven't received a copy yet or even a 2 page summary of the highlights. Don't get me wrong here, I understand the "process." It's just moving a bit too slowly for me. Maybe they have something to hide? I doubt that but I find it inconsiderate that I don't yet know what's in it. Several of my United neighbors have congratulated me on the TA, they're really surprised when I tell them I have no idea what's in it!
Maybe it just isn't as high a priority to the MEC as I feel it should be! If you ask me, once Bob Chimenti had a TA on Saturday, the MEC should have convened starting on Sunday to gather the details and make their recommendations. Anything less that that is an injustice to the membership. Like I said, maybe it just isn't very high on their priority list?
So come on already ... even the papers have at least some of the details, that's more than my own union has relayed to me to date.
I'm going to stop paying my dues until my union gives me my copy of the agreement. Enough said!
Respectfully,
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Here's some input from a line pilot ... really glad to hear we actually have a TA! I have to assume the UPS TA put some serious pressure on negotiations! Yeah! That's really great news. I'll assume that the negotiating committee wouldn't have TA'd an agreement they didn't think we would ratify. This "could" be really great news.
That said, I'm a bit disappointed that I haven't received a copy yet or even a 2 page summary of the highlights. Don't get me wrong here, I understand the "process." It's just moving a bit too slowly for me. Maybe they have something to hide? I doubt that but I find it inconsiderate that I don't yet know what's in it. Several of my United neighbors have congratulated me on the TA, they're really surprised when I tell them I have no idea what's in it!
Maybe it just isn't as high a priority to the MEC as I feel it should be! If you ask me, once Bob Chimenti had a TA on Saturday, the MEC should have convened starting on Sunday to gather the details and make their recommendations. Anything less that that is an injustice to the membership. Like I said, maybe it just isn't very high on their priority list?
So come on already ... even the papers have at least some of the details, that's more than my own union has relayed to me to date.
I'm going to stop paying my dues until my union gives me my copy of the agreement. Enough said!
Respectfully,
09-06-2006 | 06:14 PM
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National does not puppet any MEC.....any failure you were a part of was you and your peer's fault.
GET IT?????
09-06-2006 | 06:39 PM
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Here's my view on why the FDX TA was announced before the language was finalized: FDX wanted to get the message out to the customers that the deal was done before UPS announced the vote. Why? Customer confidence as we head for the peak season. I think ALPA and the negotiating committee was pleased with the way things had wound down and so they agreed to let managemet announce it.
So, relax, it's almost Friday.
09-06-2006 | 07:12 PM
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Unity?
TH1
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09-06-2006 | 08:24 PM
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I considered and even had a line in my post about that, but I decided it didn't really address the point I was trying to make concerning the ALPA hater's comment.
Nonetheless, I don't think that your pilot group will self destruct. I think you guys will probably make some changes in the union leadership.
Nonetheless, I don't think that your pilot group will self destruct. I think you guys will probably make some changes in the union leadership.
09-07-2006 | 04:54 AM
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