FDX MEC Endorses TA
02-09-2011 | 08:53 PM
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From: 777 FO
I read this TA while working on base at my reserve job. I almost threw up. APC was blocked, so I couldn't wait to get home and see what I was missing when I read it. Looks like I didn't miss a thing. I'll vote NO.
02-09-2011 | 09:36 PM
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REALLY?????
I was looking for the meat and potatoes and all I found was a sprig of parsley. Again, JG was a member of the last NC under BC. I am not surprised. However, instead of being a part of the 32%'ers, this time I'm predicting I will be a part of the 41%'ers.
I was looking for the meat and potatoes and all I found was a sprig of parsley. Again, JG was a member of the last NC under BC. I am not surprised. However, instead of being a part of the 32%'ers, this time I'm predicting I will be a part of the 41%'ers.
02-09-2011 | 10:14 PM
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Allow me to play devil's advocate for a second.
Why do you think 3% is merely a COLA? Inflation as calculated by FICA for the past two years has been essentially zero that's why social security has gotten zero COLA increases. Inflation may very well go up soon but so far it has not. Our last CBA had a 9% initial increase - 3% for the two years of negotiations and 3% for the new year. This one has a straight 3% - maybe it should be 4% since the TA (in theory) would be signed 4 months after the amendable date but why do you guys think it should be so much higher? We are the highest hourly paid in the industry and quite a bit higher than anyone outside of UPS. I too believe the company is doing well but many of the same guys crying for how great the company is doing, in the next sentence warn of a double dip recession that will affect everyone negatively.
Deadheading by trains? Give me a break - did I read something wrong or did this only affect the small amount of pilots in FDAs and did it only affect a few city pairs that most guys (at least the ones that are reasonable) deviate and take the much more efficient train anyways?
I think we should improve the FDA packages - yeah guys bid it knowing what was in it but they were also told by our then MEC and NC that the packages would be fixed - these are some fixes. If more senior guys are drawn to bid FDAs that helps out a LOT of pilots here.
I'm more concerned that there wasn't more put into how and when the company can enter into 4a2b. Is there anything on ULR at all?
Just a few thoughts. Flame away.
Why do you think 3% is merely a COLA? Inflation as calculated by FICA for the past two years has been essentially zero that's why social security has gotten zero COLA increases. Inflation may very well go up soon but so far it has not. Our last CBA had a 9% initial increase - 3% for the two years of negotiations and 3% for the new year. This one has a straight 3% - maybe it should be 4% since the TA (in theory) would be signed 4 months after the amendable date but why do you guys think it should be so much higher? We are the highest hourly paid in the industry and quite a bit higher than anyone outside of UPS. I too believe the company is doing well but many of the same guys crying for how great the company is doing, in the next sentence warn of a double dip recession that will affect everyone negatively.
Deadheading by trains? Give me a break - did I read something wrong or did this only affect the small amount of pilots in FDAs and did it only affect a few city pairs that most guys (at least the ones that are reasonable) deviate and take the much more efficient train anyways?
I think we should improve the FDA packages - yeah guys bid it knowing what was in it but they were also told by our then MEC and NC that the packages would be fixed - these are some fixes. If more senior guys are drawn to bid FDAs that helps out a LOT of pilots here.
I'm more concerned that there wasn't more put into how and when the company can enter into 4a2b. Is there anything on ULR at all?
Just a few thoughts. Flame away.
Last edited by Tuck; 02-09-2011 at 10:31 PM. Reason: addition
02-09-2011 | 10:23 PM
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Allow me to play devil's advocate for a second.
Why do you think 3% is merely a COLA? Inflation as calculated by FICA for the past two years has been essentially zero that's why social security has gotten zero COLA increases. Inflation may very well go up soon but so far it has not. Our last CBA had a 9% initial increase - 3% for the two years of negotiations and 3% for the new year. This one has a straight 3% - maybe it should be 4% since the TA (in theory) would be signed 4 months after the amendable date but why do you guys think it should be so much higher? We are the highest hourly paid in the industry and quite a bit higher than anyone outside of UPS. I too believe the company is doing well but many of the same guys crying for how great the company is doing, in the next sentence warn of a double dip recession that will affect everyone negatively.
Deadheading by trains? Give me a break - did I read something wrong or did this only affect the small amount of pilots in FDAs and did it only affect a few city pairs that most guys (at least the ones that are reasonable) deviate and take the much more efficient train anyways?
I think we should improve the FDA packages - yeah guys bid it knowing what was in it but they were also told by our then MEC and NC that the packages would be fixed - these are some fixes. If more senior guys are drawn to bid FDAs that helps out a LOT of pilots here.
Just a few thoughts. Flame away.
Why do you think 3% is merely a COLA? Inflation as calculated by FICA for the past two years has been essentially zero that's why social security has gotten zero COLA increases. Inflation may very well go up soon but so far it has not. Our last CBA had a 9% initial increase - 3% for the two years of negotiations and 3% for the new year. This one has a straight 3% - maybe it should be 4% since the TA (in theory) would be signed 4 months after the amendable date but why do you guys think it should be so much higher? We are the highest hourly paid in the industry and quite a bit higher than anyone outside of UPS. I too believe the company is doing well but many of the same guys crying for how great the company is doing, in the next sentence warn of a double dip recession that will affect everyone negatively.
Deadheading by trains? Give me a break - did I read something wrong or did this only affect the small amount of pilots in FDAs and did it only affect a few city pairs that most guys (at least the ones that are reasonable) deviate and take the much more efficient train anyways?
I think we should improve the FDA packages - yeah guys bid it knowing what was in it but they were also told by our then MEC and NC that the packages would be fixed - these are some fixes. If more senior guys are drawn to bid FDAs that helps out a LOT of pilots here.
Just a few thoughts. Flame away.
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02-09-2011 | 11:04 PM
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From: Nordskog Industries Field Technician
Are you guys HKG based? Are you planning on bidding an FDA? RTFTA?
02-10-2011 | 12:27 AM
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Yes I am in HKG.... and deadheading in trains in China should not be a forced option. Whether I choose to deviate and take the train is another thing. Also what is going to stop them for scheduling other crews from ANC, MEM, LAX to deadhead in trains from CAN-HKG. So this will affect all the international crew members in Asia and Europe alike.
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