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Old 09-10-2006 | 05:33 AM
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My line value is 65 hours and I am protected at the normal 75 hours for pay. My question is if I pick up a trip on a day off is it paid above the 75 hours or is it added to the 65 hours and only pays extra once I am at or above the 75hr credit?

Sorry if this is a simple one, but this area of contract does not make sense to me...

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Old 09-10-2006 | 06:10 AM
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You are working for free until your line credit exceeds 75.
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Old 09-10-2006 | 06:14 AM
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So, if your on reserve and fly 5 hours you get paid for 75. If you fly on a day off it's above and beyond 75hrs? wierd..

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Old 09-10-2006 | 06:41 AM
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I agree......
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Old 09-10-2006 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LakeLivin
So, if your on reserve and fly 5 hours you get paid for 75. If you fly on a day off it's above and beyond 75hrs? wierd..

Thanks for the reply...
It sounds weird now, but if you remember why it's set up that way, you'll appreciate the difference.

The '93 contract gave us actual reserve rules, the 98 contract enhanced reserve to make it more attractive to someone who lives in domicile, but seniority-wise could hold a line. The intent is to make reserve a "good deal" so a domicile livin' guy like me would bid it, freeing up a line for a commuting pilot.
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Old 09-10-2006 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LakeLivin
My line value is 65 hours and I am protected at the normal 75 hours for pay. My question is if I pick up a trip on a day off is it paid above the 75 hours or is it added to the 65 hours and only pays extra once I am at or above the 75hr credit?
we were offered what youare talking about, called "Bid Line Guarantee" as part of the MD-11 IRO agreement back in 2001 or so. We turned it down. Bad move in hindsight.
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In the new contact you have to have 14 days of duty or 75 hrs. of credit. before opentime counts.


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Old 09-11-2006 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nightrider
In the new contact you have to have 14 days of duty or 75 hrs. of credit. before opentime counts.


Rob
Forgot about the 14 duty day thing but you are right and that is the way it was in th eold package too
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