jungle

Bottom line, pilots will be recalled when the recall is going to add enough revenue to justify the expense.

The timing of this is highly dependent on the world economic situation.

vagabond

Well, let me say that my family and I and friends are equal opportunity - we are furiously sending packages on FedEx and UPS, and buying things on Amazon with our many generous gift certificates from the holidays.

We are also supporting domestic airlines by flying as much as we can.

Surely the economy will recover one day; let's just hope it's sooner than later.

Archie Bunker

Slug,

It's not his EB…he's got "management" written all over his dimwitted forehead.

Open time band….hahahaha! Classic…and these are the guys giving us line checks.

Lineslug

Ok, makes a lot more sense now. A frustrated mangler hanging out on a pilot board pretending he is one of us, and that anyone of us would care what his opinion is.

And to think I felt somewhat bad calling him an idiot, believing him to be a line pilot brother... I should have known.

Thanks Archie, I feel better now

CactusCrew

Would that be the profits generating from eliminating the 500 pilots overstaffed ?
Or the 300 projected furloughs ?
Or the 170 announced and scheduled furloughs ?
Or is it the 109 number that were ACTUALLY furloughed ?

Yeah, that open time band had no effect on the furlough ...
Tell that to the 400 that kept their job.

There's irony to be found, but it is not as you suggest ...

FR8TFLYER

You are correct, he is most likely management. He probably doesn't make good coffee or harass enough of us about our hats so his boss tells his to spread management BS on chat room boards.

Zoso

Told to me straight from an FQS himself: "The new flight and duty time rules will essentially eliminate the flight qualified manager positions. That's why UPS fought so hard for the cut-out. UPS doesn't care about having to recall everybody and hire more, they are just terrified about giving up the managers."

Jonathan E

Anyone remember the movie Disclosure, with Michael Douglas and Demi Moore? In it, there was a secret cost-cutting commitee that ruined Michael Douglas' product behind his back? Based on a true story BTW.

Our labor group is like that commitee. Kinda like the SS within the Nazis.

This is a game. It's Kneecaps' game. No logic, no business decisions. It's an attempt at conditioning, and we're Pavlov's dogs. It's pathetic, but expect more attempts to screw with us.

Remember how the mechanic's negoiation went. Our first TA will be a POS, to be voted down. Just saying.

Keep the Faith.

jungle

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Those mean old Nazis have provided some of the highest pay and best working conditions on the planet. Shame on them!

Shockwaves

Ich bin nur ein dummer Pilot, jetzt nur noch mich bezahlen.