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Old 06-07-2012 | 08:39 AM
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I just received this in an email from a buddy of mine:

"Something to think about, I just saw posting in Jetcareers about FedEx/UPS requirements, and among others there is now a US Postal Service requirement for pilots flying the US Mail that states you cannot have lived outside the USA or Territories for more then 6 months in the past 5 years, unless you were in the military, worked for a US company, had a spouse doing either, or were in the Peace Corps or were a Missionary. This means that folks who are going the overseas route to build time in foreign airlines are out of luck if they want to fly for the big boys...and this will probably percolate down to the Majors and Regionals since they fly mail as well. It seems that the powers that be want to keep American pilots on the reservation making slave wages, rather then being paid decently overseas".

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Old 06-07-2012 | 08:42 AM
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It's been a FedEx requirement for over 10 years. Required by the USPS to haul the mail.


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Old 06-07-2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I just received this in an email from a buddy of mine:

"Something to think about, I just saw posting in Jetcareers about FedEx/UPS requirements, and among others there is now a US Postal Service requirement for pilots flying the US Mail that states you cannot have lived outside the USA or Territories for more then 6 months in the past 5 years, unless you were in the military, worked for a US company, had a spouse doing either, or were in the Peace Corps or were a Missionary. This means that folks who are going the overseas route to build time in foreign airlines are out of luck if they want to fly for the big boys...and this will probably percolate down to the Majors and Regionals since they fly mail as well. It seems that the powers that be want to keep American pilots on the reservation making slave wages, rather then being paid decently overseas".

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Yep, been that way since summer of '01 when we started hauling the mail.
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Old 06-07-2012 | 10:19 AM
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well... it was news to me. Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this?
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Old 06-07-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I just received this in an email from a buddy of mine:

"Something to think about, I just saw posting in Jetcareers about FedEx/UPS requirements, and among others there is now a US Postal Service requirement for pilots flying the US Mail that states you cannot have lived outside the USA or Territories for more then 6 months in the past 5 years, unless you were in the military, worked for a US company, had a spouse doing either, or were in the Peace Corps or were a Missionary. This means that folks who are going the overseas route to build time in foreign airlines are out of luck if they want to fly for the big boys...and this will probably percolate down to the Majors and Regionals since they fly mail as well. It seems that the powers that be want to keep American pilots on the reservation making slave wages, rather then being paid decently overseas".

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Some who have gone to Dubai to fly for Emirates have learned this lesson the very hard way ---- they've had their interview offers from US cargo carriers recinded.

And the 5 year clock doesn't "reset" until they return to the US.

It puts them in a real "Catch 22".
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Old 06-07-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
well... it was news to me. Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this?
Uh, because the USPS requires it?
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Old 06-07-2012 | 12:49 PM
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So is this mostly for the cargo carriers, or if say, you wanted to work at XYZ airlines to get time in type, and then come back and work for Southwest. Assuming that job is still good. I'm on furlough and am getting to the point of going to another country, but I'd hate to not be able to come back.
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Old 06-07-2012 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Uh, because the USPS requires it?
thank you captain obvious... I meant are there any federal regulations or legal/security reasons why this isn't allowed?
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Old 06-07-2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by capmflojo
So is this mostly for the cargo carriers, or if say, you wanted to work at XYZ airlines to get time in type, and then come back and work for Southwest. Assuming that job is still good. I'm on furlough and am getting to the point of going to another country, but I'd hate to not be able to come back.
FedEx signed a multi-billion $$ contract with USPS in 2001 to haul the mail, airport to airport. I don't believe SWA has a postal contract, but you will have to check with SWA for their specific hiring requirements.
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Old 06-07-2012 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
thank you captain obvious... I meant are there any federal regulations or legal/security reasons why this isn't allowed?
While I can't cite anything specific, I'm sure that is the reasoning. This has been discussed on this forum numerous times over the past 6+yrs. A little searching may find the answer to your question Airline Pilot Central Forums - Search Forums.

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