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Old 07-25-2013 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
Fellow Southern Air Crewmembers,

Voting on the B737 LOA is underway and ends at 12:00 noon (EST) on July 31. Your union leadership unanimously recommends that the membership ratify the proposed B737 LOA. If you have not already voted, we encourage you listen to the recordings of the membership conference calls that are available on the Local 1224 website or speak with an Executive Council member directly before you cast your vote. We want every member to make an informed choice in this important referendum.

As we previously reported, management informed the union that it is close to securing a new line of B737 cargo business from DHL. Ratification of the B737 LOA is in the best interest of every Southern crewmember. In the short term, a B737 operation should generate additional operating revenues, as well as recall and upgrade opportunities. We also see a longer term benefit to a successful B737 operation. When our CBA becomes amendable in 2016, we will seek major improvements to a wide variety of sections of your CBA, including but not limited to significant increases to B747 and B777 pay rates. Additional operating revenues from a successful B737 operation should enlarge the pie and every crewmember’s piece of it in our next contract. Let’s not pull any punches – the company needs to start making more money so that you can start to make more money. That’s why we need to ratify this LOA.

No matter how you cut it, there is no good reason to reject the proposed B737 LOA. First of all, the B737 LOA doesn’t negatively impact B747 and B777 crewmembers. For example, as long as you continue to hold a B747 or B747 Position, you continue to enjoy home basing rights. Your per diem stays the same, too. Simply put, you don’t lose a thing. On the other hand, if the company does not secure the B737 business, no Southern crewmember is better off for it. There will be fewer recalls, fewer upgrades and less operating revenue. That doesn’t help anyone. It is true that we all have a right to be angry about current B747 and B777 pay, but voting the LOA down won’t raise B747 or B777 pay by one penny. In fact, less revenue means we will have a harder time raising our pay when we go back to negotiations in 2016. In the end, the company needs the business and so do each and every one of us.

Highlights of the B737 LOA include:

• A B737 pay scale, including a 61-hour guarantee, 12/13 days off in a month and increases to several B747 and B777 longevity years;

• A B737 base system;

• A B737 moving expenses policy for base reductions and closures;

• Pay protections for B737 crewmembers that commute to base;

• Free parking for B737 crewmembers at CVG;

• Improved hours of service provisions for B737 operations; and

• B737 specific displacement rules.

Get the Facts Before You Vote

If you have not already voted, please listen to the recorded membership calls on the website or call an Executive Council member directly before voting. We want every member to have all of the facts and information needed to make an informed decision. Once again, your ExCo urges every member to vote to ratify the proposed B737 LOA.

Important Note

In order to be eligible to vote, a member has until 3:00 p.m. ET, Tuesday, July 30, 2013 to bring oneself back into good standing for the purpose of this election. If anyone wishes to vote via paper ballot in lieu of electronic voting, request for a paper ballots must be made before July 24.

Fraternally,

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Old 07-25-2013 | 07:59 AM
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I wish to add multiple swear words and heaps of negativity aimed at the joke of union "leadership" at Southern, but due to personal discretion and the TOS, I'll refrain.

What an absolute joke. This contract does NOT help Southern pilots. Do not believe in any carrots. You can't expect pay raises in the future when you show you are willing to work for pennies now. How stupid does the union think we are???
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Old 07-25-2013 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboy8272
There are huge reasons at least 2 other airlines have rejected this 737 proposal with a resounding NO (even with some MEC pushing it and having furloughed crewmwmbers!)
The rumor floating around at one of the other airlines, who rejected this flying, is the entire MEC is going to be voted out in the next election for even allowing it to come to vote.

All these union guys must get together and type up this BravoSierra because this statement sounds almost exactly like the other ones.

Good point on CASS too.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
The rumor floating around at one of the other airlines, who rejected this flying, is the entire MEC is going to be voted out in the next election.

All these union guys must get together and type up this BravoSierra because this statement sounds almost exactly like the other ones.

Good point on CASS too.
The LOA addressed the CASS issue and said it would be implemented. Also had a fairly standard two flight commuter clause built in.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 10:27 AM
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Can't beat that free parking at CVG. I don't think we were offered that at ATI. They must be getting desperate.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 12:20 PM
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You guys cant see the biggest problem with this? THREE airlines at least bidding on the same flying...enjoy the bottom.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
The LOA addressed the CASS issue and said it would be implemented. Also had a fairly standard two flight commuter clause built in.
Most airlines have CASS because pilots commute and travel around on off days, vacation etc...
It's sad how SAI mgmt never lifted a finger to implement CASS as a benefit their pilots, but now that CASS will be required for this 737 flying, mgmt is suddenly all over it. Scumbags.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rollndadice
You guys cant see the biggest problem with this? THREE airlines at least bidding on the same flying...enjoy the bottom.
The regional model at the ACMIs. The bottom line is DHL will "find" someone to do this flying for what DHL wants to pay. The operators who "declined" will be forced to have this new operator normed into their peer group when DHL contract renewal time comes rolling around.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
The LOA addressed the CASS issue and said it would be implemented. .
CASS was addressed in the contract from Oct '12.
Before "we" knew about the DHL 73s.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
The rumor floating around at one of the other airlines, who rejected this flying, is the entire MEC is going to be voted out in the next election for even allowing it to come to vote.

All these union guys must get together and type up this BravoSierra because this statement sounds almost exactly like the other ones.

Good point on CASS too.
NCR757,
Please tell us where the news release is of dumping the 11s, and the source of any of your other far out rumors of this and that. As of late you are posting complete crap.
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