busdriver12

Good question. Must be the farm animals angle. Don't think minority status gets you zip after you're hired, trust me on that one.

noser

Okay, so I finally looked up some of the pairings that you guys have been talking about and holy cow!!! I would love to know how JS is getting all of these trips!!!

Full pull

So BM reads APC.

DoodyOfficer

I was also very impressed, however I have a different take on the who and why. The union should be holding individuals to the publish code of ethics without some sort of vision,direction, or rules an organization will cease to exist. The company is only responsible if there is some sort of illegal activities unless they see some sort of benefit on correcting the wrong. It's obvious that the company sees this as an issue within the crew force and it's going to leverage it for future negotiations. I've heard SS talk about the gorilla in the room well ALPA created a gorilla. ALPA should be ashamed of themselves.

4A2B

I understand your distaste for this behavior, it has to be accomplished through some sort of rule twisting or coordination with inside help. There is no other explanation, however you read the SCP's letter and even they have found NO reason to act, yet.

How do you act upon your own members without actual proof? Secondly, ALPA does not have the power to conduct unilateral expulsions or levy discipline. I suggest you research the ALPA Manuals and there is a section on how internal charges are dealt with when foul play or conduct against the Association is suspected. Not an easy hurdle, nor should it be an easy one.

I have confidence that the Company will act when and if they have a case, until then ALPA is not in a position to act IMHO.

RedeyeAV8r

ALPA should be ashamed?
What management Cubicle do you live in?

How did ALPA create this?

What entity controls the posting and assigning of open time?

What entity has Access to every pilot's Calendar, even the ones that are Blocked?

What entity has access to a Pilot's Entire Finger input history on PFC, to include Trips trade inputs, time stamps, OTP banks, etc etc etc?

What entity has recordings of all conversations between schedulers and Crew members?

The answer isn't ALPA. Management created this and it is there responsibility to fix it.

You somehow expect that ALPA should track these Alleged violators down and execute them without any due process. I'll admit there are sketchy circumstances and it is coincidental (too coincidental) that many of these choice charters seem to go to a select few, but nobody on here has shown Real evidence of wrong doing, and furthermore, if you believe whats on written by Mgt on PFC , neither does the SCP, but he is apparently looking into it.

Do we really want ALPA to become the Disciplinarian?
Management seems to be doing just fine on their own!
….and if your answer is yes, where would you suggest the line be drawn?
Should ALPA become the Sick police?
Should ALPA become the Uniform Nazis?
What about Incidents/accidents? Should ALPA turn in it's own?

Should ALPA create a toll free 1- 800- Turn in your Buddy Hotline?

Ive worked in past environments where a fellow crew member
would turn a fellow airman in behind his/her back, but not before they smiled and said goodbye it sure was a great trip. That is Not an environment I care to work under again and I certainly don't expect my Union to foster that.

ALPA's job is protect and enhance the careers of it's pilots, all it's pilots.

Let's see, ALPA should go after these alleged clowns and get them Fired according to you. Then they will spend hundreds of thousands in Dues $$ and man hours to defend and get them re-instated, because that is ALPA's job.

And who is FDX ALPA anyway? 4300 of us…. well most of us.
Peer pressure can go a long way. Just saying……….

RedeyeAV8r

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FDXLAG

Point of order. The company does not have a recording of personal cell phone to personal cell phone conversations between schedulers and crews.

RedeyeAV8r

Lag ,You are technically correct, But they(Management) can get records of those alleged calls, to include txt messages, emails and the lot if they want to…. and have proven that the will in the past.

skeebo2

Since we know mgmt is reading this I'd like to help them.
Take a look at two airbus captains ( husband and wife ) neither a check airman or instructor. They flew from Anchorage to Asia. No F/O.

I think they parked in the out and back lot too.