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Old 05-20-2014 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Brah
They are "MGT" in name only
True they are considered to be: "Subordinate Officials"

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If you are not the person who can hire or fire then you are NOT a manager.

If a NURP wants a pilot who is in good standing fired then he must conspire with a true manager to see that it is done.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Loon
...I don't expect to be called; but if I am, I am considering ALL points of view.
Are your serious? If you don't get it after reading these threads, and still need more "time to think about it", you just might be the exact kind of person they are looking for to be a NURP. Unbelievable.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Are your serious? If you don't get it after reading these threads, and still need more "time to think about it", you just might be the exact kind of person they are looking for to be a NURP. Unbelievable.
Not to mention I'd have the honor of "you bet your job" rides with an EMB-145 captain...be still my heart. Oh yes...on overwater checks he could regale me with his crossings over Lake Michigan. On international flights he could dazzle me with his EWR turns.

To be in the midst of such experience would leave me awestruck.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
Not to mention I'd have the honor of "you bet your job" rides with an EMB-145 captain...be still my heart. Oh yes...on overwater checks he could regale me with his crossings over Lake Michigan. On international flights he could dazzle me with his EWR turns.

To be in the midst of such experience would leave me awestruck.
Gotta hand it to ya Bob, that was very funny. And hearing it in kelsey grammars voice makes it hysterical.
Btw, you'd be surprised how daunting some of those lake Michigan crossings can be
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Old 05-20-2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Loon
Gotta hand it to ya Bob, that was very funny. And hearing it in kelsey grammars voice makes it hysterical.
Btw, you'd be surprised how daunting some of those lake Michigan crossings can be
Loon, you made a comment about no one calling because you're a white male with no family connections. Poor excuse to go for one of the notorious positions in the airline world. BTW I'm a white dude with no family connections and I'm surrounded by similar folks in training right now.

Differentiate yourself by your accomplishments and credentials not by selling out your fellow pilots. Look at Loons previous posts and you'll see he'll be perfectly at home as a NURP.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinsat7
Loon, you made a comment about no one calling because you're a white male with no family connections. Poor excuse to go for one of the notorious positions in the airline world. BTW I'm a white dude with no family connections and I'm surrounded by similar folks in training right now.

Differentiate yourself by your accomplishments and credentials not by selling out your fellow pilots. Look at Loons previous posts and you'll see he'll be perfectly at home as a NURP.
Now now, I wasn't using the "white card" as an excuse; no, I was just saying that there are "outside influences" that affect some more than others. In retrospect, I should never have said it because it gave a guy like you an opportunity to use it in your own twisted context. Good luck in training!
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Old 05-20-2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
...To be in the midst of such experience would leave me awestruck.
Yeah, wow.

From his continued posts, I would imagine that if management figures out who he is, he will be getting a call for that position which he is "evaluating" so carefully.

I'm sorry that you guys have to deal with those people who are attracted to those positions, in the cockpit.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Yeah, wow.

From his continued posts, I would imagine that if management figures out who he is, he will be getting a call for that position which he is "evaluating" so carefully.

I'm sorry that you guys have to deal with those people who are attracted to those positions, in the cockpit.
A few of the NURPS never flew anything bigger than a BE1900 before becoming instant captains and check airmen. Nowhere else can someone with so little real experience have so much power and responsibility. Among their attributes to the company, aside from answering the phone 24/7/365, refusing no assignment, taking unairworthy aircraft, crossing any picket line, straightening magazines, cleaning toilets, making coffee, getting dry cleaning are...well...I guess there aren't any.

Oh yeah...wear hats and name tags.
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Old 05-20-2014 | 08:12 PM
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Old 05-20-2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Loon
Now now, I wasn't using the "white card" as an excuse; no, I was just saying that there are "outside influences" that affect some more than others. In retrospect, I should never have said it because it gave a guy like you an opportunity to use it in your own twisted context. Good luck in training!
I do believe that your problem is that very few airlines are hiring right now. Fortunately, it looks like it will be picking up pretty soon.

But don't be under the illusion that white males who don't have family ties aren't going to get called. The reality is, probably at least 90% of the people who are getting called are in that category. There just aren't enough minorities and people with family ties out there to compete with.

Reminds me of when I got hired by FedEx, I was talking to a friend's wife, who was complaining that her husband couldn't get an interview because of all those women and minorities they were hiring. My response, "Yeah, must be tough competing for those 95% white guy slots!"
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