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#83
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If I were a Captain at UPS and one of you c-suckers asked for a ride, I'd say "Welcome Aboard." Then I'd treat you like the Captain I first flew with, when I was hired at UPS in early 1989.
I was the F/E on a DC-8 going from SDF to ONT, on this particular flight. I got out to do my walkaround and cockpit prep and found a guy sitting in the jumpseat in the cockpit. I introduced myself to him and asked his name, to which he replied, "I'm a management pilot." I didn't say anything else, because I really was so new I didn't understand the implication of his statement. When the rest of the crew arrived, I told the Captain that the J/S'er was a "management pilot." The Captain introduced himself and asked for the J/S'er's ID, then told the guy he could ride in the back.
A long protracted argument ensued and only stopped when the duty officer, who the F/O had called for, came out to the jet. The J/S'er rode in the back, or the Captain wouldn't have flown the flight. After I closed the door, and was sitting down in my seat, the Captain turned to me and said: "make it cold back there." It was so cold back there that you could have hung meat, but the J/S'er never came up to the flight deck to complain. When we landed in Ontario, it must have been close to minus 15 degrees back there, and watching the guy deplane, I thought he'd fall over and pass out from hypothermia. A good laugh was had by all, and the Captain bought dinner for us that night.
That's how I'd treat you clowns.
I was the F/E on a DC-8 going from SDF to ONT, on this particular flight. I got out to do my walkaround and cockpit prep and found a guy sitting in the jumpseat in the cockpit. I introduced myself to him and asked his name, to which he replied, "I'm a management pilot." I didn't say anything else, because I really was so new I didn't understand the implication of his statement. When the rest of the crew arrived, I told the Captain that the J/S'er was a "management pilot." The Captain introduced himself and asked for the J/S'er's ID, then told the guy he could ride in the back.
A long protracted argument ensued and only stopped when the duty officer, who the F/O had called for, came out to the jet. The J/S'er rode in the back, or the Captain wouldn't have flown the flight. After I closed the door, and was sitting down in my seat, the Captain turned to me and said: "make it cold back there." It was so cold back there that you could have hung meat, but the J/S'er never came up to the flight deck to complain. When we landed in Ontario, it must have been close to minus 15 degrees back there, and watching the guy deplane, I thought he'd fall over and pass out from hypothermia. A good laugh was had by all, and the Captain bought dinner for us that night.
That's how I'd treat you clowns.
#85
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: 767 Seat 1A
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Because we had, and still have, the best union in the business - the IPA. You also have to understand that at that time Capt's here were paid 65K a year, jobs in the industry were plentiful, and no one gave a rats a$$ if they got fired for being treated like truck drivers and standing up to them. We have had to fight for literally EVERYTHING we have, including drinking water, on our airplanes from day one.
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For doing what? Listening to the Captain, who very well might have known that there were perishables aboard and he wanted to make sure that they arrived in good condition, or are you talking about firing the Captain because he didn't want the management guy riding in the cockpit, and used his Captain's Authority to make sure that he got what he wanted, like all Captains back through recorded aviation history? Or are you talking about having an exceptionally cold cabin, because no one complained about it, and we never went back there once airborne. Fact is, it was a very "cool" move, forced by that jerk of a management pilot, who, if he were a little brighter, would have been riding in comfort, instead of freezing his butt off.
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I won't pile on, but I'm sure there are LOTS of examples. I can personally vouch for the above, it's 100% accurate. In fact I was told that I could have used captains authority and declared an emergency to proceed to intended destination - which btw happened to be in a different country. UFB.
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